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Started by jakec
Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:21
PC won't start
Author: jakec
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:21
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 21:21
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Hi, My PC was working fine. I shut down and replaced my Celeron 950 with a Pentium III 933, added a stick of SDRAM, another hard drive, and a DVDROM drive. In doing this I took my Abit VA-6 motherboard out of the ATX case and then reinstalled it. Now when I press my case power button there is no response. No fans start up, no beeps, nothing (not even the power supply fan goes). There is the barest flicker from my case lights. I tried taking everything out and only using the bare minimum components. Still no joy - no fans. I tried swapping in another motherboard (an ASUS CUV-4X-e). The LED light on this motherboard works to show it is receiving power. But no start from anything. Help!
Re: PC won't start
Author: Dave - Dave.net.nz
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 22:29
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 22:29
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jakec wrote: > My PC was working fine. I shut down and replaced my Celeron 950 with a > Pentium III 933 Im not sure about this board, but was it jumpered? or is it multiplier all done in software? heh, nice cross posting, next time limit it a tad, you've broken at least one group charter. -- Dave Hall http://www.dave.net.nz http://www.karyn.net.nz
Re: PC won't start
Author: ftran999
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 22:30
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 22:30
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"jakec" <jakecollins@hushmail.com> wrote in message news:baa5cf3b.0410041321.7dff6fed@posting.google.com... > Hi, > My PC was working fine. I shut down and replaced my Celeron 950 with a > Pentium III 933, added a stick of SDRAM, another hard drive, and a > DVDROM drive. In doing this I took my Abit VA-6 motherboard out of the > ATX case and then reinstalled it. > > Now when I press my case power button there is no response. No fans > start up, no beeps, nothing (not even the power supply fan goes). > There is the barest flicker from my case lights. I tried taking > everything out and only using the bare minimum components. Still no > joy - no fans. > > I tried swapping in another motherboard (an ASUS CUV-4X-e). The LED > light on this motherboard works to show it is receiving power. But no > start from anything. > > Help! First question,have you updated your MB with the latest bios so that it may support the new processor. I ask this because the way I read the Abit site http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categories=1&model=97 , the VA6 supports up to 733MHZ. This was most likely the original configuration for the board so that's why I suggest upgrading your bios. If you have upgraded and are still having the same problem my guess would be that you have a faulty processor. I'm assuming this since you have tried the same processor in two different MBs and have gotten the same results I would contact your vendor and tell them your problem. Perhaps they will send you a replacement processor. Hope this helps. Hope this helps.
Re: PC won't start
Author: Timberwolf
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:45
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:45
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"jakec" <jakecollins@hushmail.com> wrote in message news:baa5cf3b.0410041321.7dff6fed@posting.google.com... > Hi, > My PC was working fine. I shut down and replaced my Celeron 950 with a > Pentium III 933, added a stick of SDRAM, another hard drive, and a > DVDROM drive. In doing this I took my Abit VA-6 motherboard out of the > ATX case and then reinstalled it. > > Now when I press my case power button there is no response. No fans > start up, no beeps, nothing (not even the power supply fan goes). > There is the barest flicker from my case lights. I tried taking > everything out and only using the bare minimum components. Still no > joy - no fans. > > I tried swapping in another motherboard (an ASUS CUV-4X-e). The LED > light on this motherboard works to show it is receiving power. But no > start from anything. > > Help! Try reading your motherboard specs before upgrades---from what info you give (abit va6) it would seem reasonable from the user manual from abit http://fae.abit.com.tw/eng/download/dlmanual.php?name=VA6&file=va6.pdf that you have been overclocking as the max speed cpu is given as p3 450-733 (100&133 FSB) p2 233-450 (66&100FSB) Celeron 266-533 (66 FSB) However it does state that it "reserves the support for future p3 cpu" assuming you have the latest "update" (bios) and you say it ran your celeron 950--check your wiring---either that or it is toast personally i would quit wasting time with it and aquire something more recent (finances allowing) just a comment Timberwolf "I do not mind dying, i just do not want to be there when it happens"-----nice one Spike
Re: PC won't start
Author: ~misfit~
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 01:04
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 01:04
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jakec wrote: > Hi, > My PC was working fine. I shut down and replaced my Celeron 950 with a > Pentium III 933, added a stick of SDRAM, another hard drive, and a > DVDROM drive. In doing this I took my Abit VA-6 motherboard out of the > ATX case and then reinstalled it. > > Now when I press my case power button there is no response. No fans > start up, no beeps, nothing (not even the power supply fan goes). > There is the barest flicker from my case lights. I tried taking > everything out and only using the bare minimum components. Still no > joy - no fans. > > I tried swapping in another motherboard (an ASUS CUV-4X-e). The LED > light on this motherboard works to show it is receiving power. But no > start from anything. Next time try changing one thing at a time, then testing. Your approach to upgrading seems similar to your approach to crossposting, not the best. Can't help you, too many changes, too little info. -- ~misfit~
Re: PC won't start
Author: Kaius
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:00
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 01:00
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It's the power supply. You don't even get the fan running, and you get a dim light on a separate board. Sounds to me it's either the power supply doesn't have enough juice for your new computer, or the power supply just died. You need around 300 - 350W minimum to run the Pentium III and all the drives reliably. You can by the power supply separately from the case. Just make sure it's an ATX form factor. "jakec" <jakecollins@hushmail.com> wrote in message news:baa5cf3b.0410041321.7dff6fed@posting.google.com... > Hi, > My PC was working fine. I shut down and replaced my Celeron 950 with a > Pentium III 933, added a stick of SDRAM, another hard drive, and a > DVDROM drive. In doing this I took my Abit VA-6 motherboard out of the > ATX case and then reinstalled it. > > Now when I press my case power button there is no response. No fans > start up, no beeps, nothing (not even the power supply fan goes). > There is the barest flicker from my case lights. I tried taking > everything out and only using the bare minimum components. Still no > joy - no fans. > > I tried swapping in another motherboard (an ASUS CUV-4X-e). The LED > light on this motherboard works to show it is receiving power. But no > start from anything. > > Help!
Re: PC won't start
Author: Raymond
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 05:56
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 05:56
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Nah, 250W is good enough for a PIII. Got a system like that here filled with components (3 HDD, 3 sticks of RAM, 5 cards, DVD-ROM, FDD, and overclocked) that's been doing just fine for years, using a cheap 250W PSU . "Kaius" <kelly888@verizon.net> wrote in message news:4tH8d.5610$Sl2.3997@trnddc09... > It's the power supply. You don't even get the fan running, and you get a > dim light on a separate board. Sounds to me it's either the power supply > doesn't have enough juice for your new computer, or the power supply just > died. You need around 300 - 350W minimum to run the Pentium III and all the > drives reliably. You can by the power supply separately from the case. > Just make sure it's an ATX form factor. > > "jakec" <jakecollins@hushmail.com> wrote in message > news:baa5cf3b.0410041321.7dff6fed@posting.google.com... > > Hi, > > My PC was working fine. I shut down and replaced my Celeron 950 with a > > Pentium III 933, added a stick of SDRAM, another hard drive, and a > > DVDROM drive. In doing this I took my Abit VA-6 motherboard out of the > > ATX case and then reinstalled it. > > > > Now when I press my case power button there is no response. No fans > > start up, no beeps, nothing (not even the power supply fan goes). > > There is the barest flicker from my case lights. I tried taking > > everything out and only using the bare minimum components. Still no > > joy - no fans. > > > > I tried swapping in another motherboard (an ASUS CUV-4X-e). The LED > > light on this motherboard works to show it is receiving power. But no > > start from anything. > > > > Help! > >
Re: PC won't start
Author: Kadaitcha Man
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 06:10
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 06:10
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Raymond, <StopSpam@Now.net>, the insecure, left-of-center shitbucket, and prosthetist, breathed: > Nah, 250W is good enough for a PIII. Got > a system like that here filled with components > (3 HDD, 3 sticks of RAM, 5 cards, DVD-ROM, > FDD, and overclocked) that's been doing just fine > for years, using a cheap 250W PSU . You neglected to mention the 15 hectare refrigeration plant it's housed in. -- Hideous Haiku: teabag fiends insect, rabbit doubt frets, squirrel hogs marvelling tall firm
Re: PC won't start
Author: Jake Collins
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 07:13
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 07:13
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It was the power supply. Got a new 400W power supply and all running fine now. -- Jake Collins http://members.tripod.com/collinsj/ "Kadaitcha Man" <nospam@rainx.cjb.net> wrote in message news:5b8e202ae3a94bff84a71ae99eb4ed77@news-text.bhandari.pvt.np... > Raymond, <StopSpam@Now.net>, the insecure, left-of-center shitbucket, and > prosthetist, breathed: > >> Nah, 250W is good enough for a PIII. Got >> a system like that here filled with components >> (3 HDD, 3 sticks of RAM, 5 cards, DVD-ROM, >> FDD, and overclocked) that's been doing just fine >> for years, using a cheap 250W PSU . > > You neglected to mention the 15 hectare refrigeration plant it's housed > in. > > -- > Hideous Haiku: > teabag fiends insect, > rabbit doubt frets, squirrel hogs > marvelling tall firm >
Re: PC won't start
Author: Raymond
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 16:43
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 16:43
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"Kadaitcha Man" <nospam@rainx.cjb.net> wrote in message news:5b8e202ae3a94bff84a71ae99eb4ed77@news-text.bhandari.pvt.np... > Raymond, <StopSpam@Now.net>, the insecure, left-of-center shitbucket, and > prosthetist, breathed: > > > Nah, 250W is good enough for a PIII. Got > > a system like that here filled with components > > (3 HDD, 3 sticks of RAM, 5 cards, DVD-ROM, > > FDD, and overclocked) that's been doing just fine > > for years, using a cheap 250W PSU . > > You neglected to mention the 15 hectare refrigeration plant it's housed in. Refrigeration plant??? The CPU never goes above 42C, I don't even have a case fan, just a simple CPU FHS. The hard-drives though do go to near 50C sometimes, usually around 45C. Nothing fancy or expensive about this system, the most expensive thing in it is the old Abit motherboard, custom built of course. The only caveat I'll add is that my graphics card is very old, about 6 years old, so it doesn't use that much power.
Re: PC won't start
Author: Dr. Harvie Wahl-Banghor
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 16:51
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 16:51
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I was walking down the street, minding my own business, when on Wed, 06 Oct 2004 16:43:47 GMT, "Raymond" <StopSpam@Now.net> screamed from behind the mulberry bush: > >"Kadaitcha Man" <nospam@rainx.cjb.net> wrote in message >news:5b8e202ae3a94bff84a71ae99eb4ed77@news-text.bhandari.pvt.np... >> Raymond, <StopSpam@Now.net>, the insecure, left-of-center shitbucket, and >> prosthetist, breathed: >> >> > Nah, 250W is good enough for a PIII. Got >> > a system like that here filled with components >> > (3 HDD, 3 sticks of RAM, 5 cards, DVD-ROM, >> > FDD, and overclocked) that's been doing just fine >> > for years, using a cheap 250W PSU . >> >> You neglected to mention the 15 hectare refrigeration plant it's housed in. > >Refrigeration plant??? >The CPU never goes above 42C, I don't even have >a case fan, just a simple CPU FHS. The hard-drives >though do go to near 50C sometimes, usually around >45C. Nothing fancy or expensive about >this system, the most expensive thing in it is the old >Abit motherboard, custom built of course. The only >caveat I'll add is that my graphics card is very old, >about 6 years old, so it doesn't use that much power. If you're not playing Doom III, I guess it doesn't really matter about the graphics card. Dr Harvie Wahl-Banghor
Re: PC won't start
Author: Dave - Dave.net.nz
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:34
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 20:34
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Raymond wrote: > the most expensive thing in it is the old > Abit motherboard, custom built of course. no wonder it was expensive, a custom built motherboard... sheesh.
Re: PC won't start
Author: Kadaitcha Man
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:03
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:03
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Raymond, <StopSpam@Now.net>, the putrefying, calciferous bottom-feeder, and maker of powdered lime from burnt bones, kecked: > "Kadaitcha Man" <nospam@rainx.cjb.net> wrote in message > news:5b8e202ae3a94bff84a71ae99eb4ed77@news-text.bhandari.pvt.np... >> Raymond, <StopSpam@Now.net>, the insecure, left-of-center >> shitbucket, and prosthetist, breathed: >> >>> Nah, 250W is good enough for a PIII. Got >>> a system like that here filled with components >>> (3 HDD, 3 sticks of RAM, 5 cards, DVD-ROM, >>> FDD, and overclocked) that's been doing just fine >>> for years, using a cheap 250W PSU . >> >> You neglected to mention the 15 hectare refrigeration plant it's >> housed in. > > Refrigeration plant??? > The CPU never goes above 42C So how long have you lived north of Siberia? -- Hideous Haiku: immortals pose, eyes scamper, caterpillars race, apple, barfly fists
Re: PC won't start
Author: Dave - Dave.net.nz
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:11
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:11
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Kadaitcha Man wrote: >>>>Nah, 250W is good enough for a PIII. Got >>>>a system like that here filled with components >>>>(3 HDD, 3 sticks of RAM, 5 cards, DVD-ROM, >>>>FDD, and overclocked) that's been doing just fine >>>>for years, using a cheap 250W PSU . >>>You neglected to mention the 15 hectare refrigeration plant it's >>>housed in. >>Refrigeration plant??? >>The CPU never goes above 42C > So how long have you lived north of Siberia? I assume you're just missing a :)? I dont remember a P3 with stock cooling ever going over that... hell, I had a heavily overclocked Celeron 400(@672 6 x 112) that didnt go much over 42C
Re: PC won't start
Author: Raymond
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 03:17
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 03:17
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"Kadaitcha Man" <nospam@rainx.cjb.net> who can't read shit, wrote in message news:cd7d30a0e4654430a96bc812c304d924@news-text.bhandari.pvt.np... > So how long have you lived north of Siberia? You just don't get it, do you? We're talking P III, not P IV, not to mention that your statements alluding to heat have nothing to do with PSU wattage needed for a P III system.
Re: PC won't start
Author: Avid Gamer
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 17:48
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 17:48
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Wonder if the power startup lead has come loose from the mobo ?, that could lead to those symtoms :) Pushing button nothing happens :p On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 14:04:51 +1300, "~misfit~" <misfit61nz@hooya.co.nz> wrote: >jakec wrote: >> Hi, >> My PC was working fine. I shut down and replaced my Celeron 950 with a >> Pentium III 933, added a stick of SDRAM, another hard drive, and a >> DVDROM drive. In doing this I took my Abit VA-6 motherboard out of the >> ATX case and then reinstalled it. >> >> Now when I press my case power button there is no response. No fans >> start up, no beeps, nothing (not even the power supply fan goes). >> There is the barest flicker from my case lights. I tried taking >> everything out and only using the bare minimum components. Still no >> joy - no fans. >> >> I tried swapping in another motherboard (an ASUS CUV-4X-e). The LED >> light on this motherboard works to show it is receiving power. But no >> start from anything. > >Next time try changing one thing at a time, then testing. Your approach to >upgrading seems similar to your approach to crossposting, not the best. > >Can't help you, too many changes, too little info.
Re: PC won't start
Author: Enkidu
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 21:54
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 21:54
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On 4 Oct 2004 14:21:35 -0700, jakecollins@hushmail.com (jakec) wrote: >Hi, >My PC was working fine. I shut down and replaced my Celeron 950 with a >Pentium III 933, added a stick of SDRAM, another hard drive, and a >DVDROM drive. In doing this I took my Abit VA-6 motherboard out of the >ATX case and then reinstalled it. > >Now when I press my case power button there is no response. No fans >start up, no beeps, nothing (not even the power supply fan goes). >There is the barest flicker from my case lights. I tried taking >everything out and only using the bare minimum components. Still no >joy - no fans. > >I tried swapping in another motherboard (an ASUS CUV-4X-e). The LED >light on this motherboard works to show it is receiving power. But no >start from anything. > PSU. I've had a few go when doing things like this. Not many, but a few. Cheers, Cliff
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