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> There are many ways, tools and techniques to achieve what you want,
> preserving or not preserving data in the process.
>
> The following is a "Do it at your own risk". You are responsible for
making
> sure
> you have backups of any important data, applications and configuration
> settings.
>
> 1. Create a Windows 2000 Emergency Repair Disk (ERD)
> 2. Use Symantec/Norton Ghost to Ghost the Windows 2000 partition or
logical
> drive onto the 2nd hard disk as an image file.
> 3. Ghost the image file back onto the 1st hard disk, using up all the
space
> on the 1st disk.
> 4. Windows 2000 will no longer boot, so use the ERD, Recovery Console
> or repair the Windows 2000 installation. This will place the Win2000
system
> (boot) files
> in the correct place and preserve current settings.
>
> There are some freeware tools out there but I havent tried them.
>
> www.xxcopy.com comes to mind.
>
> Once again, make sure you got backups!!
>
>
> "MJD" <mjd@smartchat.net.au> wrote in message
> news:aca5e7$ir2$1@perki.connect.com.au...
> > Hi all
> > I just put together my first PC
> > asus ATV333
> > 2x256DDR333
> > XP1800+ (green)
> >
> > It works....
> >
> > in BIOS
> > CPU speed is 1533
> > CPU Fregency 11.5
> > CPU/PCI 133/33
> > are that correct settings?..its unclear in manual?..
> >
11.5 X 133 = 1529.5, so you are correct.

just put win2k in your cdrom restart computer. Blue screen will come up and
give you option to delete, create partitions, format with ntfs etc.

I just built my own with athlon 1800+. How hot is your at idle, busy.
thanx
"MJD" <mjd@smartchat.net.au> wrote in message
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> Hi all
> I just put together my first PC
> asus ATV333
> 2x256DDR333
> XP1800+ (green)
>
> It works....
>
> in BIOS
> CPU speed is 1533
> CPU Fregency 11.5
> CPU/PCI 133/33
> are that correct settings?..its unclear in manual?..
>
> Also I have x2 40GB HD, one master & one slave.
> By mistake master was created with 2 partitions, one say 2GB C: and
WIN98se
> and second E: with WIN2000prof.
> I have dual boot....
> Is it possible to delate first partition C:, and WIN98 and just to have
40GB
> with WIN2000prof?
> If yes...do I use FDISK and will it change drive letter to C:
> can I use FDISK and if yes, from which partition and OS I suppose to use
it.
>
> Thanks in advance for any info.
> Jerry
>
>
>

at idle...51C



"Undaunted Infidel" <spamcop@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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> just put win2k in your cdrom restart computer. Blue screen will come up
and
> give you option to delete, create partitions, format with ntfs etc.
>
> I just built my own with athlon 1800+. How hot is your at idle, busy.
> thanx
> "MJD" <mjd@smartchat.net.au> wrote in message
> news:aca5e7$ir2$1@perki.connect.com.au...
> > Hi all
> > I just put together my first PC
> > asus ATV333
> > 2x256DDR333
> > XP1800+ (green)
> >
> > It works....
> >
> > in BIOS
> > CPU speed is 1533
> > CPU Fregency 11.5
> > CPU/PCI 133/33
> > are that correct settings?..its unclear in manual?..
> >
> > Also I have x2 40GB HD, one master & one slave.
> > By mistake master was created with 2 partitions, one say 2GB C: and
> WIN98se
> > and second E: with WIN2000prof.
> > I have dual boot....
> > Is it possible to delate first partition C:, and WIN98 and just to have
> 40GB
> > with WIN2000prof?
> > If yes...do I use FDISK and will it change drive letter to C:
> > can I use FDISK and if yes, from which partition and OS I suppose to use
> it.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any info.
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> >
>
>

thats pretty hot, i have a duron 850 which idles at 30 =D, altho i did buy a
heat sink and fan thats rated to 1.6ghz

those settings look correct, but remember with win98, you can only have
partitions up to 16gig, any more and your computer will crash spontaneously
in a few weeks

make sure your ddr is running at 166x2, some times the settings come
different from the factory

remember that windows98 doesnt reckognise ntfs files systems

"MJD" <mjd@smartchat.net.au> wrote in message
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> at idle...51C
>
>
>
> "Undaunted Infidel" <spamcop@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:%CFG8.7$vz5.193@typhoon.nyu.edu...
> > just put win2k in your cdrom restart computer. Blue screen will come up
> and
> > give you option to delete, create partitions, format with ntfs etc.
> >
> > I just built my own with athlon 1800+. How hot is your at idle, busy.
> > thanx
> > "MJD" <mjd@smartchat.net.au> wrote in message
> > news:aca5e7$ir2$1@perki.connect.com.au...
> > > Hi all
> > > I just put together my first PC
> > > asus ATV333
> > > 2x256DDR333
> > > XP1800+ (green)
> > >
> > > It works....
> > >
> > > in BIOS
> > > CPU speed is 1533
> > > CPU Fregency 11.5
> > > CPU/PCI 133/33
> > > are that correct settings?..its unclear in manual?..
> > >
> > > Also I have x2 40GB HD, one master & one slave.
> > > By mistake master was created with 2 partitions, one say 2GB C: and
> > WIN98se
> > > and second E: with WIN2000prof.
> > > I have dual boot....
> > > Is it possible to delate first partition C:, and WIN98 and just to
have
> > 40GB
> > > with WIN2000prof?
> > > If yes...do I use FDISK and will it change drive letter to C:
> > > can I use FDISK and if yes, from which partition and OS I suppose to
use
> > it.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance for any info.
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Terry Chace <spalding@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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> thats pretty hot, i have a duron 850 which idles at 30 =D,
> altho i did buy a heat sink and fan thats rated to 1.6ghz

> those settings look correct, but remember with win98,
> you can only have partitions up to 16gig, any more and
> your computer will crash spontaneously in a few weeks

Complete and utter bullshit.

> make sure your ddr is running at 166x2, some
> times the settings come different from the factory

> remember that windows98 doesnt reckognise ntfs files systems


> "MJD" <mjd@smartchat.net.au> wrote in message
> news:acik2r$c9u$1@perki.connect.com.au...
> > at idle...51C
> >
> >
> >
> > "Undaunted Infidel" <spamcop@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> > news:%CFG8.7$vz5.193@typhoon.nyu.edu...
> > > just put win2k in your cdrom restart computer. Blue screen will come up
> > and
> > > give you option to delete, create partitions, format with ntfs etc.
> > >
> > > I just built my own with athlon 1800+. How hot is your at idle, busy.
> > > thanx
> > > "MJD" <mjd@smartchat.net.au> wrote in message
> > > news:aca5e7$ir2$1@perki.connect.com.au...
> > > > Hi all
> > > > I just put together my first PC
> > > > asus ATV333
> > > > 2x256DDR333
> > > > XP1800+ (green)
> > > >
> > > > It works....
> > > >
> > > > in BIOS
> > > > CPU speed is 1533
> > > > CPU Fregency 11.5
> > > > CPU/PCI 133/33
> > > > are that correct settings?..its unclear in manual?..
> > > >
> > > > Also I have x2 40GB HD, one master & one slave.
> > > > By mistake master was created with 2 partitions, one say 2GB C: and
> > > WIN98se
> > > > and second E: with WIN2000prof.
> > > > I have dual boot....
> > > > Is it possible to delate first partition C:, and WIN98 and just to
> have
> > > 40GB
> > > > with WIN2000prof?
> > > > If yes...do I use FDISK and will it change drive letter to C:
> > > > can I use FDISK and if yes, from which partition and OS I suppose to
> use
> > > it.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance for any info.
> > > > Jerry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

so i see youve seen that happen before

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Terry Chace <spalding@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
> news:3cee5654$0$3425@echo-01.iinet.net.au...
>
> > thats pretty hot, i have a duron 850 which idles at 30 =D,
> > altho i did buy a heat sink and fan thats rated to 1.6ghz
>
> > those settings look correct, but remember with win98,
> > you can only have partitions up to 16gig, any more and
> > your computer will crash spontaneously in a few weeks
>
> Complete and utter bullshit.
>
> > make sure your ddr is running at 166x2, some
> > times the settings come different from the factory
>
> > remember that windows98 doesnt reckognise ntfs files systems
>
>
> > "MJD" <mjd@smartchat.net.au> wrote in message
> > news:acik2r$c9u$1@perki.connect.com.au...
> > > at idle...51C
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Undaunted Infidel" <spamcop@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> > > news:%CFG8.7$vz5.193@typhoon.nyu.edu...
> > > > just put win2k in your cdrom restart computer. Blue screen will come
up
> > > and
> > > > give you option to delete, create partitions, format with ntfs etc.
> > > >
> > > > I just built my own with athlon 1800+. How hot is your at idle,
busy.
> > > > thanx
> > > > "MJD" <mjd@smartchat.net.au> wrote in message
> > > > news:aca5e7$ir2$1@perki.connect.com.au...
> > > > > Hi all
> > > > > I just put together my first PC
> > > > > asus ATV333
> > > > > 2x256DDR333
> > > > > XP1800+ (green)
> > > > >
> > > > > It works....
> > > > >
> > > > > in BIOS
> > > > > CPU speed is 1533
> > > > > CPU Fregency 11.5
> > > > > CPU/PCI 133/33
> > > > > are that correct settings?..its unclear in manual?..
> > > > >
> > > > > Also I have x2 40GB HD, one master & one slave.
> > > > > By mistake master was created with 2 partitions, one say 2GB C:
and
> > > > WIN98se
> > > > > and second E: with WIN2000prof.
> > > > > I have dual boot....
> > > > > Is it possible to delate first partition C:, and WIN98 and just to
> > have
> > > > 40GB
> > > > > with WIN2000prof?
> > > > > If yes...do I use FDISK and will it change drive letter to C:
> > > > > can I use FDISK and if yes, from which partition and OS I suppose
to
> > use
> > > > it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance for any info.
> > > > > Jerry
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

i did a bit of searching for you Rod

http://www.sysopt.com/articles/upgradeguide/index5.html

"A serious consideration when adding or upgrading hard drives is the
operating system, since they do not always support large drives. A quick
guide to this is:

DOS 6.22 or earlier- limited to 8.4 gig.
Windows 95A, supports greater than 8.4 gig, but drive must contain at least
five partitions.
Windows 95B (OSR2) supports drives larger than 8.4 gigabytes. OSR2 also
provides FAT32, which is required to format one large unpartitioned drive.
Windows 98 supports 17.2 gig, FAT16 & FAT32.
Windows NT 3.5 doesn't support greater than 8.4 gig.
Windows NT 4.0 supports drives larger than 8.4 gig, but only 8.4 gigabytes
can be seen on the bootable drive (SP 4 should resolve). Only supports FAT32
with a 3rd party driver addition.
Windows NT 5.0 expected to support drives larger than 8.4 gig.
OS/2 Warp 3 and 4: Some versions support only 3.1 or 4.3 gig. "

please note the 6th line which says "Windows 98 supports 17.2 gig, FAT16 &
FAT32"

Terry Chace
Impulse Computers

Then please explain to me why I am running windows 98 with a FAT32 40gig
hard drive since August of last year without ANY problems at all? wait,
hold on... make that 2 machines! one is mine and the other is my wifes,
both are identical, and I bought them both at the same time.

Tim

"Terry Chace" <spalding@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
news:3cf0bd3a$0$7631@echo-01.iinet.net.au...
> i did a bit of searching for you Rod
>
> http://www.sysopt.com/articles/upgradeguide/index5.html
>
> "A serious consideration when adding or upgrading hard drives is the
> operating system, since they do not always support large drives. A
quick
> guide to this is:
>
> DOS 6.22 or earlier- limited to 8.4 gig.
> Windows 95A, supports greater than 8.4 gig, but drive must contain at
least
> five partitions.
> Windows 95B (OSR2) supports drives larger than 8.4 gigabytes. OSR2
also
> provides FAT32, which is required to format one large unpartitioned
drive.
> Windows 98 supports 17.2 gig, FAT16 & FAT32.
> Windows NT 3.5 doesn't support greater than 8.4 gig.
> Windows NT 4.0 supports drives larger than 8.4 gig, but only 8.4
gigabytes
> can be seen on the bootable drive (SP 4 should resolve). Only supports
FAT32
> with a 3rd party driver addition.
> Windows NT 5.0 expected to support drives larger than 8.4 gig.
> OS/2 Warp 3 and 4: Some versions support only 3.1 or 4.3 gig. "
>
> please note the 6th line which says "Windows 98 supports 17.2 gig,
FAT16 &
> FAT32"
>
> Terry Chace
> Impulse Computers
>
>

Howdy!

"Terry Chace" <spalding@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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> i did a bit of searching for you Rod
>
> http://www.sysopt.com/articles/upgradeguide/index5.html

        .NET = Not Even True, and URL = Utterly Rancid Location.

        The proof is, as always, in the pudding, as my grandma used to say.

>
> "A serious consideration when adding or upgrading hard drives is the
> operating system, since they do not always support large drives. A quick
> guide to this is:
>
> DOS 6.22 or earlier- limited to 8.4 gig.
> Windows 95A, supports greater than 8.4 gig, but drive must contain at
least
> five partitions.

        Nope, 95A only sees 8.4G.  Strike one.

> Windows 95B (OSR2) supports drives larger than 8.4 gigabytes. OSR2 also
> provides FAT32, which is required to format one large unpartitioned drive.
> Windows 98 supports 17.2 gig, FAT16 & FAT32.

        Strange - Wonder how the Win98 machine I've got at one customer's
site is manhandling that 45G drive then.

        Heh.  Maybe that's why it shuts down DURING A POWER OUTAGE - about
the only thing that causes the system to shut down (it's so I can borrow the
guy's DSL line over the weekend, so I don't have a UPS on it.)

        Maybe you should talk to those of us who are DOING this, instead of
believing all the rumors you read.

        Hell, you could even query Microsoft's knowledge base - they have a
fix for >64G drives for FDISK, and a note that if you exceed 128G, DEFRAG
and SCANDISK will break ...  If it were limited to 17.2G (which is a strange
size anyway - where in HELL did THAT come from?) why would there be a need
for a fix for FDISK for >64G drives?

> Windows NT 3.5 doesn't support greater than 8.4 gig.
> Windows NT 4.0 supports drives larger than 8.4 gig, but only 8.4 gigabytes
> can be seen on the bootable drive (SP 4 should resolve). Only supports
FAT32
> with a 3rd party driver addition.
> Windows NT 5.0 expected to support drives larger than 8.4 gig.
> OS/2 Warp 3 and 4: Some versions support only 3.1 or 4.3 gig. "
>
> please note the 6th line which says "Windows 98 supports 17.2 gig, FAT16 &
> FAT32"

        Which is, as one guy points, "something different than a product for
porcine cleanliness" ...

        RwP

Terry Chace <spalding@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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> i did a bit of searching for you Rod

Dont need any 'searching' thanks.

Pity none of this crap below is anything like your
original stupid claim that 'remember with win98, you
can only have partitions up to 16gig, any more and your
computer will crash spontaneously in a few weeks'

> http://www.sysopt.com/articles/upgradeguide/index5.html

> "A serious consideration when adding or upgrading
> hard drives is the operating system, since they do not
> always support large drives. A quick guide to this is:

> DOS 6.22 or earlier- limited to 8.4 gig.
> Windows 95A, supports greater than 8.4 gig,
> but drive must contain at least five partitions.
> Windows 95B (OSR2) supports drives larger than
> 8.4 gigabytes. OSR2 also provides FAT32, which
> is required to format one large unpartitioned drive.

All completely and utterly irrelevant to your stupid claim about Win98.

> Windows 98 supports 17.2 gig, FAT16 & FAT32.

That is just plain wrong. He might care to try explaining this 60GB
drive thats run fine under Win98 for a fair chunk of a year now.

> Windows NT 3.5 doesn't support greater than 8.4 gig.
> Windows NT 4.0 supports drives larger than 8.4 gig, but only
> 8.4 gigabytes can be seen on the bootable drive (SP 4 should
> resolve). Only supports FAT32 with a 3rd party driver addition.
> Windows NT 5.0 expected to support drives larger than 8.4 gig.
> OS/2 Warp 3 and 4: Some versions support only 3.1 or 4.3 gig. "

All completely and utterly irrelevant to your stupid claim about Win98.

> please note the 6th line which says "Windows
> 98 supports 17.2 gig, FAT16 & FAT32"

Pity thats just plain wrong and it says nothing like your stupid 'any
more and your computer will crash spontaneously in a few weeks'

All those limitations he lists prevent you from say
having a FAT16 partition bigger than 2GB, and its
like that right from the start, no 'any more and your
computer will crash spontaneously in a few weeks'

> Terry Chace
> Impulse Computers

Fark. Obviously one to be avoided at all costs.

16 isnt close enough to 17 for you rod?

so why does my boss with 25 year epx, and numerous university degrees tell
me to do this, and for the people saying that they have large partitions, i
did say spontaneous, which i assume you know what it means.

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Terry Chace <spalding@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
> news:3cf0bd3a$0$7631@echo-01.iinet.net.au...
>
> > i did a bit of searching for you Rod
>
> Dont need any 'searching' thanks.
>
> Pity none of this crap below is anything like your
> original stupid claim that 'remember with win98, you
> can only have partitions up to 16gig, any more and your
> computer will crash spontaneously in a few weeks'
>
> > http://www.sysopt.com/articles/upgradeguide/index5.html
>
> > "A serious consideration when adding or upgrading
> > hard drives is the operating system, since they do not
> > always support large drives. A quick guide to this is:
>
> > DOS 6.22 or earlier- limited to 8.4 gig.
> > Windows 95A, supports greater than 8.4 gig,
> > but drive must contain at least five partitions.
> > Windows 95B (OSR2) supports drives larger than
> > 8.4 gigabytes. OSR2 also provides FAT32, which
> > is required to format one large unpartitioned drive.
>
> All completely and utterly irrelevant to your stupid claim about Win98.
>
> > Windows 98 supports 17.2 gig, FAT16 & FAT32.
>
> That is just plain wrong. He might care to try explaining this 60GB
> drive thats run fine under Win98 for a fair chunk of a year now.
>
> > Windows NT 3.5 doesn't support greater than 8.4 gig.
> > Windows NT 4.0 supports drives larger than 8.4 gig, but only
> > 8.4 gigabytes can be seen on the bootable drive (SP 4 should
> > resolve). Only supports FAT32 with a 3rd party driver addition.
> > Windows NT 5.0 expected to support drives larger than 8.4 gig.
> > OS/2 Warp 3 and 4: Some versions support only 3.1 or 4.3 gig. "
>
> All completely and utterly irrelevant to your stupid claim about Win98.
>
> > please note the 6th line which says "Windows
> > 98 supports 17.2 gig, FAT16 & FAT32"
>
> Pity thats just plain wrong and it says nothing like your stupid 'any
> more and your computer will crash spontaneously in a few weeks'
>
> All those limitations he lists prevent you from say
> having a FAT16 partition bigger than 2GB, and its
> like that right from the start, no 'any more and your
> computer will crash spontaneously in a few weeks'
>
> > Terry Chace
> > Impulse Computers
>
> Fark. Obviously one to be avoided at all costs.
>
>

Terry Chace <spalding@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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> 16 isnt close enough to 17 for you rod?

'remember with win98, you can only have partitions
up to 17gig, any more and your computer will crash
spontaneously in a few weeks' is just as stupid, stupid.

Its just plain wrong. As a number of people have told you.

> so why does my boss with 25 year epx, and
> numerous university degrees tell me to do this,

Because he's a pig ignorant fool.

> and for the people saying that they have
> large partitions, i did say spontaneous,

And you made a very spectacular
fool of yourself indeed when you did.

> which i assume you know what it means.

Corse I do thanks child.


> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Terry Chace <spalding@iinet.net.au> wrote

> > > i did a bit of searching for you Rod
> >
> > Dont need any 'searching' thanks.
> >
> > Pity none of this crap below is anything like your
> > original stupid claim that 'remember with win98, you
> > can only have partitions up to 16gig, any more and your
> > computer will crash spontaneously in a few weeks'
> >
> > > http://www.sysopt.com/articles/upgradeguide/index5.html
> >
> > > "A serious consideration when adding or upgrading
> > > hard drives is the operating system, since they do not
> > > always support large drives. A quick guide to this is:
> >
> > > DOS 6.22 or earlier- limited to 8.4 gig.
> > > Windows 95A, supports greater than 8.4 gig,
> > > but drive must contain at least five partitions.
> > > Windows 95B (OSR2) supports drives larger than
> > > 8.4 gigabytes. OSR2 also provides FAT32, which
> > > is required to format one large unpartitioned drive.
> >
> > All completely and utterly irrelevant to your stupid claim about Win98.
> >
> > > Windows 98 supports 17.2 gig, FAT16 & FAT32.
> >
> > That is just plain wrong. He might care to try explaining this 60GB
> > drive thats run fine under Win98 for a fair chunk of a year now.
> >
> > > Windows NT 3.5 doesn't support greater than 8.4 gig.
> > > Windows NT 4.0 supports drives larger than 8.4 gig, but only
> > > 8.4 gigabytes can be seen on the bootable drive (SP 4 should
> > > resolve). Only supports FAT32 with a 3rd party driver addition.
> > > Windows NT 5.0 expected to support drives larger than 8.4 gig.
> > > OS/2 Warp 3 and 4: Some versions support only 3.1 or 4.3 gig. "
> >
> > All completely and utterly irrelevant to your stupid claim about Win98.
> >
> > > please note the 6th line which says "Windows
> > > 98 supports 17.2 gig, FAT16 & FAT32"
> >
> > Pity thats just plain wrong and it says nothing like your stupid 'any
> > more and your computer will crash spontaneously in a few weeks'
> >
> > All those limitations he lists prevent you from say
> > having a FAT16 partition bigger than 2GB, and its
> > like that right from the start, no 'any more and your
> > computer will crash spontaneously in a few weeks'
> >
> > > Terry Chace
> > > Impulse Computers
> >
> > Fark. Obviously one to be avoided at all costs.