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Re: Install win xp over a network

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From: kony
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 22:48
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On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:15:11 -0400, Some Guy <Some@Guy.com>
wrote:

>David Maynard wrote:
>
>> > The fact of the matter is that the main benefit of TCP/IP is
>> > that it's routable..
>> 
>> Ain't no 'little' thing.
>
>-------------
>NetBEUI (NetBIOS Extended User Interface) is a new, extended
>version of NetBIOS lets computers communicate within a local
>area network.  NetBEUI is the best performance choice for
>communication within a single LAN.  It does not support the
>routing of messages to other networks.  It is recommended to
>install both NetBEUI and TCP/IP in each computer and set the
>server up to use NetBEUI for communication within the LAN and
>TCP/IP for communication beyond the LAN.
>
>http://cob.bloomu.edu/afundaburk/personal/NBEA%20-%20Let's%20Go%20Wireless%20Presentation.ppt
>-----------
>
>Look people.
>
>Microsoft has a single over-riding agenda - to make money (like most
>corporations).  However, their main product (desktop OS's) aren't like
>most consumer goods (ie like a car).  How do you know when an OS is
>"worn out" ?  Well, for Microsoft (which is really (in the real world)
>the only game in town when it comes to OS's) they can call the shots
>to some degree by forcing the obselence of older os's by forcing
>certain new technologies into the market (the migration from Win-95 to
>Win-98 was coaxed by such things as USB and FAT-32).
>
>This is really just another way to say that a good deal of the claimed
>differences between different versions of Windows is marketing
>bullshit designed to instill a degree of psycological bias against the
>older OS.  It creates a notion that the older OS is "worn out" in an
>almost physical way.
>
>The other aspect of what Microsoft does is to gear Windows first and
>formost towards their best paying customer - that being large
>corporations (and the gov't).  They want work-station security, they
>want (need) routable protocals, they want remote administration
>capability, they want permission-based user hirarchies.  So Windows
>(2K and XP) comes "out of the box" with all sorts of services and
>ports configured as active by default. Which leads to the next point:
>
>Microsoft values reducing the need for customer support far more than
>workstation security.  The default settings for 2K and XP are set to
>be most appropriate for a large corporation (with IT staff and
>fire-wall).  For the small company or home user, XP is (and was) a
>disaster in terms of viral and trojan infections.
>
>What's this got to do with NetBEUI vs TCP/IP?
>
>It's Microsoft's "keep it simple stupid" mentality.  If TCP will work
>everywhere on a network (large, small, across routers, etc) then it
>becomes the default protocal and bye bye NetBEUI.  It will mean fewer
>support calls for MS from fortune 500 companies.  It doesn't mean
>NetBEUI is bad or inferior (it seems it may have a performance edge on
>small networks vs TCP, and it certainly has a security edge over
>TCP).  It just means MS made a decision motivated by making their life
>simpler.  I'm sure a big part of it was to force some degree of
>incompatibility between exiting networks (with NT4 servers) which
>would force those systems into the garbage in favor of XP-pro.
>
>It's funny how jaded we all pretty much are towards Microsoft the
>corporate pirahna fish that they are, how they use strong-arm tactics
>to kill competition, yet we let their mantra of OS obselescence sink
>into our heads exactly according to their plan.
>
>> Remove it and you've got an antiquated, severely limited, 
>> protocol.
>
>As if TCP/IP isin't "antiquated".


OH MY.

Nice post.

Mr. Maynard is going to be busy for the next week with this
one.
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