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Article #1211Re: Install win xp over a network
From: Some Guy
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 04:27
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 04:27
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I suspect that Macro$oft discovered some degree of incompatibility or instability with NetBeui on XP - plenty of evidence on the net that such instability exists, and some work-arounds (like using some files from Win-2K) have been suggested. M$'s corporate direction of embracing the internet (after first dismissing it in the mid 1990's) meant that TCP/IP took on more importance over NetBeui (I'm sure they gritted their teeth at the realization that they couldn't force their own protocal on the internet). With the introduction of XP, M$ knew it would face some raised eyebrows with the official "non-support" of NetBeui, so they began a propaganda smear campaign against it, as this blurb of theirs indicates: ------------- Support for the NetBEUI network protocol has been discontinued in Windows XP. This protocol is not available to install in Windows XP. The NetBEUI protocol was developed in 1985. It is used by network operating systems such as Microsoft LAN Manager, Microsoft Windows for Workgroups, Microsoft Windows 95, and Microsoft Windows NT. The NetBEUI protocol implements the OSI LLC2 protocol, and is a non-routable protocol. ------------ Interesting that they somehow fail to mention that Windows 98 and Windows 2000 also included NetBeui as a supported protocal. Hell - who want's to associate themselves with the likes of WFWG or Win-95? Yech! The above blurb is quoted on this page: http://www.marcspages.co.uk/nsd/rpm0124.htm and is followed by this line: -------------- But it is this last fact that still makes it one of the fastest around, and is why Reliable Power Meters still use it. -------------- Hmmm. For more level-headed discourse on NetBeui, have a look here: http://www.scotsnewsletter.com/42.htm Tell me that the default shares on XP and the default use (and settings) of TCP bindings aren't a recipe for disaster on home networks (most of which don't use NAT routers) and that wireless networking makes it worse. But nope - can't blame M$ for how they configured XP. Took them 4 years for SP2, but it's too late for the armies of trojan'd home computers that have turned the internet into spam-hell (that, ironically, corporations have to deal with). What was sacrificed to make corporate use of XP smooth and painless has instead given them grief because of all the infected XP boxes on residential networks. But no, that can't be. We all trust M$ to always make the best, the wise decisions - right? For more venting about M$ (and a little bit on NetBeui) look here: http://www.brain.com.pk/~mnk/Tutorials/HateMS.htm Bottom line is that if you're forced by your own delusions (or by misguided corporate policy) to "upgrade" to XP, you're better off not to mess with NetBeui because M$ got it wrong with XP. But don't think they stopped "support" for it because it's antiquated (TCP is about 5 years older). It's funny to see people rationalize the decisions M$ makes about this or that - as if they had the best interests of their current or previous customers in mind. History has shown time and time again that they are always looking to see how they can (1) ease their support load and (2) better control the obselesence of their own products. Logic and engineering rational fall victim to the marketing dept.
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