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Re: Install win xp over a network

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From: David Maynard
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 08:08
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Some Guy wrote:
> I suspect that Macro$oft discovered some degree of incompatibility or
> instability with NetBeui on XP

Amazing how they 'discovered' that over 7 years ago when they announced, 
prior to Windows 98, that Netbeui would be going away so start making plans 
to do without it.

> - plenty of evidence on the net that
> such instability exists, and some work-arounds (like using some files
> from Win-2K) have been suggested.  M$'s corporate direction of
> embracing the internet (after first dismissing it in the mid 1990's)
> meant that TCP/IP took on more importance over NetBeui (I'm sure they
> gritted their teeth at the realization that they couldn't force their
> own protocal on the internet).

Except it's an IBM protocol, developed for them by Sytec Inc, for token ring.

It [Netbios followed by Netbeui] was created at a time when small 
stand-alone networks were still rather common but, in case you hadn't 
noticed, to find even a two computer home network that isn't internet 
connected is extremely rare. And the esoteric 'speed advantage', assuming 
one could manage to notice it, is all but erased when running multiple 
protocols; and the 'small size [netbios] so it fits well into DOS 640K' is 
meaningless to modern machines.


> With the introduction of XP, M$ knew it would face some raised
> eyebrows with the official "non-support" of NetBeui,

You mean among people who never read announcements?

> so they began a
> propaganda smear campaign against it, as this blurb of theirs
> indicates:
> 
> -------------
> Support for the NetBEUI network protocol has been discontinued in
> Windows XP. This protocol is not available to install in Windows XP.
> The NetBEUI protocol was developed in 1985. It is used by network
> operating systems such as Microsoft LAN Manager, Microsoft Windows for
> Workgroups, Microsoft Windows 95, and Microsoft Windows NT. The
> NetBEUI protocol implements the OSI LLC2 protocol, and is a
> non-routable protocol.
> ------------

And where's the "smear?"


> Interesting that they somehow fail to mention that Windows 98 and
> Windows 2000 also included NetBeui as a supported protocal.  Hell -
> who want's to associate themselves with the likes of WFWG or Win-95? 
> Yech!

It was provided as backward support, not a recommended protocol, and anyone 
who reads announcements knew it was going away.

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