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Article #3448Re: Help with Intel Mobo and Fan...
From: Uncle Vinnie
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 17:39
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 17:39
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I wanted to thank you folks for all your help, 'kony', etc.. The problem I had was that it was 2 problems! Undersized power supply plus the need to run the 1.2 piii Tualatin at 1.55 volts - at least. Swapping out the 145 Power supply for a larger one would still result in BSOD because the Upgradware adapter locks the 1.2piii at 1.50v with a Vcore of 1.475, which happens to work fine in my Compaq but not my Intel D815EEA. Switching the Upgradware 370 for the LinLin adapter, even moving the jumpers to a higher voltage of 1.55+, still was not good without a larger Power Supply- the Tully, I guess, needs more power. Seems all I read here, help at the Overclockers N/G, plus what caught my attention at PowerLeap's site, held the answer - their same adapter locks voltage at 1.55, not at 1.475 as Upgradeware's does. I got a larger Power Supply from New Egg- RaidMax 380 ($8 after rebate, not bad!). I also set the LinLin adapter jumpers at 1.55, which is what the m'board shows, with a vcore of 1.52 and change... (I have Intel Monitor). I can't say what the exact problem was, who knows ( it's been suggested the regulator in the 815). All I know is that it works! I would imagine I could get creative and up the voltage a little further to 1.6 or 1.65, but I am satisfied, it has been running steady for the past few days. This has been a frustrating ordeal - 2 years... 2 years...maybe a little more... Just a quick note, thank you for your help and patience! (As you may recall, I have the right BIOS, swapped memory sticks, ran memtest, swapped motherboards (D815EEA for D815EEA), cards, processors, Upgradware adapters (which they claim works, whihc I now highly doubt, unless it's a certain rev), etc...) "kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message news:898k91diqik4viphj54h8kbeeeg5ovaa0e@4ax.com... > On Sun, 29 May 2005 11:53:09 -0400, "Uncle Vinnie" > <vinrin57@nospam.optonline.net> wrote: > >>Well.. the power supply is not it.... BSOD again. My daughter shut >>down, >>so I don't know what it was. > > BSOD is possibly just windows-acting-like-windows-does. > That is, there are a multitude of things that could be > interacting at this point. > > Is the system still shutting off? Or did "shut down" not > mean "shut off" but rather, reboot? > > Shutdowns and failures to start are most commonly the power > supply. However, if the system had been running in an > instable state for a time, it's quite possible you now have > file corruption, or even worse- large amounts of ripple from > an insufficient (or defective, etc) power supply can in fact > damage other parts, those other parts can even "die" from > that before the power supply itself degrades enough to force > replacement. Basically when it's insufficient capacity, the > voltage drops more per any load and the capacitors on other > components are depleted much moreso as they had higher > potential still. That wears them out faster. > > >> >>Maybe one driver??? > > You can certainly disable anything you can do without. > It's not quite clear how frequent this (any particular > aspect of the multiple failures: BSOD, shut down, and > failure-to-start) occurs, if there is any commonality to any > or all of them. Sometimes it can be something as simple as > two apps that don't get along- for the BSOD at least, not > the shut down or failure to turn on. > > If I were putting odds down, the failure to start would be > either power (are you sure the replacement PSU is > good/adequate?), or motherboard. However, odds are just > that- if I replied this way to 10 people and odds were 9:1, > I might be wrong one of those times. > > >>This has been going on a year and a half > > This same problem for a year and a half? > I dont' recall at the moment, but are you running most > recent motherboard bios? > > If possible, I'd consider making a backup of the current OS > partition and doing a clean OS install as a testbed, then > adding no drivers yet, trying to reproduce the problem and > gradually adding back drivers. Other options include one of > those boot-from-CD linux distros to try another OS, or > running something like memtest86 for a day, Prime 95's > Torture Test for several hours, 3DMark (whichever version is > appropriate for your age/performance-level of video card, > perhaps 3DMark '99 or 2000 if the video is as old as the > board). > > >> and I cannot >>for the life of me figure out what it could be. Even Viewer has >>nothing... >>right click my computer, and there are no 'exclamation points'...where >>else >>can I look??? > > Can you monitor temps and voltages? > You might see if MBM5 (motherboard monitor) supports your > system and if it'll log the parameters... though a > multimeter is nice for voltage readings too. > > Is it possible the board is shorting out on a misplaced > motherboard tray standoff? If all else fails, pull the > board and set it up on a desk in a minimalistic > configuration. > > >> >>Thank you.. I am literally at whit's end.... > > Sometimes it's simply easier to swap in other parts... and > other times a box gets old enough that it's not worthwhile > to hunt down the parts. If all else fails, "most" of the > parts are probably good still, you could always ebay a large > chunk of parts "as is", perhaps with a note about > "something" being amiss but that it's at least working > enough that someone with the spare parts could figure it > out.
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