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Article #3472i840 lock-step interleave SDRAM
From: Xtrapollis
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:05
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:05
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Does any one understand the lock-step / interleave mode on the i840 chipsets. I have read many of the Intel datasheets and more, but I am still having a little trouble deciding if I can get more performance out of my system by populating all of the DIMM rows. Important system specs: Supermicro PIIIDME motherboard / i840 based dual PIII 600B 256MB PC-133 SDRAM / bank population as follows / 0:128MB - 1:128MB - 2:empty - 3:empty When SDRAM configurations are used instead of RDRAM, the ram bus is only driven at 100MHz, so I want to get most bandwidth out of the board. Because of the 840 design, I must install ram in pairs (as 0 & 1 above). Will using only 2 DIMMs give me the full 3.2GB/s burst available on 840 boards, or must I populate all four banks for lock-step and interleaving to work. Also, it seems that all four DIMMS may have to be the same for interleaving. Correct? I have done my research and have quite a deep background and a good understanding of what is going on, but I am a bit confused and the below data from Supermicro is contradictory (as is other data I have.) Therefore, I would appreciate any clarification. I have included some info from Intel's website for anyone interested in reading. Yeah I know, this is a long post, but this has been bugging me for months. From the Supermicro website. http://www.supermicro.com/PRODUCT/MotherBoards/840/PIIIDME.htm Some of the specs of the Supermicro PIIIDME: Intel's 840 "Carmel" Chipset (82840 MCH + 82801AA ICH + 2 x 82804AA MRH-S + 82806AA P64H) - Up to 4 GB PC100 compatible SDRAM - Memory operates in interleave mode for increased performance There seems to be only two MRH-S units on this board, so how can it operate in interleave and be in compliance with the Intel datasheet notes below. It seems there should be four MRH-S repeaters for interleave mode. Any utilities that can check/bench memory bandwidth. I have SiSoft Millenium, but it crashes on the memory test under Win2K. The main thing that I want to know is if I should bother populating all four DIMM slots. Here is what the Intel MCH Datasheet says. http://channel.intel.com/design/chipsets/datashts/298020.htm _______ The 82840 MCH uses the 82804AA Memory Repeater Hub for SDRAM (MRH-S) to provide the support for SDRAM devices. The 82840 MCH supports MRH-Ss operating in lock-step on its dual Rambus* channels which results in a 1.6 GB/s burst bandwidth for non-interleave mode operation and 3.2 GB/s burst bandwidth for interleave mode operation. The MCH supports a total of 8 SDRAM Row-Pairs. Each SDRAM Row-Pair consists of a row accessed via the MCH Direct Rambus* interface A and a row accessed via the MCH Rambus* interface B. MRH-S_0 contains physical Row-Pairs 0-3. MRH-S_1 contains physical Row-Pairs 4-7. SDRAM DIMM are always populated in Row-Pairs. The MCH supports two MRH-S configurations: Non-Interleave Address Mode. Non-interleave address mode can be used when the number of SDRAM Row-Pair is even in the memory array, and it is required when the number of Row-Pair is odd. Each Direct Rambus* interface is populated with one or two MRH-Ss. A MRH-S pair consists of a MRH-S on the Direct Rambus* interface A and another MRH-S on the Direct Rambus* interface B for lock-step operation. SDRAM is always populated in Row-Pairs with the same device technology. *** The chipset always operates in lock-step mode regardless of the number of MRH-S units. *** Correct? *** Interleave Address Mode. Interleave address mode requires exactly 2 MRH-Ss per Direct Rambus* interface for a total of 4 MRH-Ss in the memory array. SDRAM is always populated in Row-Pair Sets with the same device technology in interleave address mode. A "Row-Pair Set" consists of one Row-Pair on the first MRH-S pair and another Row-Pair on the second MRH-S pair. *** This means four DIMMS are accessed simultaneously in lock-step / interleave mode. *** Correct? *** A MRH-S pair consists of a MRH-S on the Direct Rambus* interface A and another MRH-S on the Direct Rambus* interface B for lock-step operation. The number of SDRAM Row-Pairs is always even for interleave mode. MRH-S_0 contains physical Row-Pairs 0-3. MRH-S_1 contains physical Row-Pairs 4-7. The Row-Pair Sets become 0/4, 1/5, 2/6, 3/7. Memory must be populated as full Row-Pair Sets in interleaved mode. Thus, for example, Row-Pair 0 in MRH-S_0 becomes a Set with Row-Pair 4 in MRH-S_1. _______
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