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Re: Help with Intel Mobo and Fan...

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From: kony
Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 18:32
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On Sat, 28 May 2005 09:57:27 -0400, "Uncle Vinnie"
<vinrin57@nospam.optonline.net> wrote:

>RE: Intel D815EEA, XP Home, 1.2Piii w/ Upgradeware adapter.
>
>I am trying to isolate problems I've had where the computer either shuts 
>down or BSOD, or won't start up.  

Shut downs are more likely:

fan failure/overheating (check fans), 

power supply problem (is it generic, what make/model and
what other components are in the system?)  You might take
voltage readings with a multimeter or at least check if/what
the bios reports for voltages as well.

Motherboard failure- examine the board, particularly looking
for failed capacitors. IE- caps that are domed, vented,
leaky residue on the tops or bottoms most commonly on the
larger caps about the CPU socket, memory or AGP slot.

Rarely other component failures can cause it, briefly
inspect other cards, cables, etc.  If in doubt about a
component (and if possible) remove and/or replace it (if you
have a spare), and retry system.


>I have swapped processors, swapped 
>adapters (similar to powerleaps), swapped motherboards, swapped hard drive, 
>swapped memory (straight 133's to low density), power supply, and cleared 
>the BIOS

To be clear- the system does somewhat work (up until it
fails)?  Is there any commonality to the problem, for
example length of time system has been running, ambient room
temps, other heavy loads on same AC circuit (like
refridgerator or AC, etc), or other generalized AC power
problems in your home/region?

What do the bluescreens state?
Check the WinXP Event Viewer.

When you swapped the power supply, was it with a known good
supply?  Two generics both with insufficient 5V amperage
could both cause similar (same) problem.  Generally it's not
difficult to power a Tualatin based system from an "average"
power supply though, so unless the other system components
were a heavy load it would have to be pretty poor power.

>
>I am down to the only consistent thing left that may make sense.  I have not 
>been plugging the processor fan into the processor fan connector on the 
>motherboard.  I have been plugging it into the connector near the CD 
>connectors.  The reason is because when using Intel's Active Monitor 
>program, it can read from the connector and show the fans RPM's, which I 
>like in case of fan failure.

You might check the bios for settings relating to the fan
sensors & shutdown potential.  I dont' think that should
cause a bluescreen.  Regardless, it is easy enough to
simply, temporarily replug the fan into the originally
intended connector and run system to check this.



>
>BUT, is there something either with the software, or even hardware on the 
>D815EEA that may cause shutdown if there isn't a fan connected to the 
>processor fan connector?  That might make sense to me.
>
>BTW, the Tualatin adaptor (Upgradeware and Powerleap) have both been tested 
>to work on this motherboard using BIOS P10, which I have.  Emails to tech 
>support have them stumped- it should work!
>
>Thanks!

If you still have the old (or another suitable) CPU besides
the Tualatin, one that doesn't use the CPU adapter, try
that.

The typical generic course is to strip system down to only
bare essentials- to post, then adding things back one at a
time.  If there are still problems, remove mobo from case
and test on a desk- not on an anti-static mat.  Disconnect
case panel wiring too, sometimes simple things like a stuck
power button can be problematic.  The mobo can be turned on
by shorting the two power-on pins with a paperclip,
screwdriver tip, etc- carefully so as to not short wrong
thing.

It could even be that you have multiple problems, for
example a motherboard failing plus memory errors.  Programs
like memtest86 can check the memory.
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