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Dave...

Here's a synopsis:

I have swapped identical motherboards, standoff pins are fine, swapped 
Processors, adapters, power supply (145 watt/ 250 watt), hard drive.

I have pulled out the TV card, firewire card, and modem.

I am currently running it, and will for the next few days, with an 800mhz 
processor and 2 straight 256/133's (high density).  The commonality may be 
the use of AN adaptor- perhaps posting at an overclockers forum might make 
some sense..  If you were in Jersey, I'd bring the box over to you with a 
large cup of coffee and a check!

Anyway, when the system shuts down, it either goes BSOD  and remains there, 
or shuts down with power light/ drive light still on.  It at times takes a 
while before it will start up.  As if it either has to drain, reset, who 
knows.  Hence, my thinking it's hardware.  Yet, how can I have the same 
problem with all these parts, particularly 2 different motherboards???

Upgradeware and Powerleap have both listed this board as tested and approved 
with the adaptor, using P10 BIOS...  Where else can I look, or get a peek at 
what's causing this??/

Thank you very much!


"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 29 May 2005 11:53:09 -0400, "Uncle Vinnie"
> <vinrin57@nospam.optonline.net> wrote:
>
>>Well..   the power supply is not it.... BSOD again.  My daughter shut 
>>down,
>>so I don't know what it was.
>
> BSOD is possibly just windows-acting-like-windows-does.
> That is, there are a multitude of things that could be
> interacting at this point.
>
> Is the system still shutting off?  Or did "shut down" not
> mean "shut off" but rather, reboot?
>
> Shutdowns and failures to start are most commonly the power
> supply.  However, if the system had been running in an
> instable state for a time, it's quite possible you now have
> file corruption, or even worse- large amounts of ripple from
> an insufficient (or defective, etc) power supply can in fact
> damage other parts, those other parts can even "die" from
> that before the power supply itself degrades enough to force
> replacement.  Basically when it's insufficient capacity, the
> voltage drops more per any load and the capacitors on other
> components are depleted much moreso as they had higher
> potential still.  That wears them out faster.
>
>
>>
>>Maybe one driver???
>
> You can certainly disable anything you can do without.
> It's not quite clear how frequent this (any particular
> aspect of the multiple failures:  BSOD, shut down, and
> failure-to-start) occurs, if there is any commonality to any
> or all of them.  Sometimes it can be something as simple as
> two apps that don't get along- for the BSOD at least, not
> the shut down or failure to turn on.
>
> If I were putting odds down, the failure to start would be
> either power (are you sure the replacement PSU is
> good/adequate?), or motherboard.  However, odds are just
> that- if I replied this way to 10 people and odds were 9:1,
> I might be wrong one of those times.
>
>
>>This has been going on a year and a half
>
> This same problem for a year and a half?
> I dont' recall at the moment, but are you running most
> recent motherboard bios?
>
> If possible, I'd consider making a backup of the current OS
> partition and doing a clean OS install as a testbed, then
> adding no drivers yet, trying to reproduce the problem and
> gradually adding back drivers.  Other options include one of
> those boot-from-CD linux distros to try another OS, or
> running something like memtest86 for a day, Prime 95's
> Torture Test for several hours, 3DMark (whichever version is
> appropriate for your age/performance-level of video card,
> perhaps 3DMark '99 or 2000 if the video is as old as the
> board).
>
>
>> and I cannot
>>for the life of me figure out what it could be.  Even Viewer has 
>>nothing...
>>right click my computer, and there are no 'exclamation points'...where 
>>else
>>can I look???
>
> Can you monitor temps and voltages?
> You might see if MBM5 (motherboard monitor) supports your
> system and if it'll log the parameters... though a
> multimeter is nice for voltage readings too.
>
> Is it possible the board is shorting out on a misplaced
> motherboard tray standoff?  If all else fails, pull the
> board and set it up on a desk in a minimalistic
> configuration.
>
>
>>
>>Thank you.. I am literally at whit's end....
>
> Sometimes it's simply easier to swap in other parts... and
> other times a box gets old enough that it's not worthwhile
> to hunt down the parts.  If all else fails, "most" of the
> parts are probably good still, you could always ebay a large
> chunk of parts "as is", perhaps with a note about
> "something" being amiss but that it's at least working
> enough that someone with the spare parts could figure it
> out.