Article View: alt.comp.hardware
Article #75Re: 500 GB WD My Book external H/D suddenly not wanting to fire up
From: Centre Parting
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 07:51
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 07:51
60 lines
3896 bytes
3896 bytes
Paul wrote: > Centre Parting wrote: >> Paul wrote: >>> Franc Zabkar wrote: >>>> On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:24:53 +0100, "Centre Parting" >>>> <nokia.account@ntlworld.com> put finger to keyboard and composed: >>>> >>>>> The Google study presumably polled a lot of PC users about HDD >>>>> failures. >>>> The Google study concentrated on Google's own huge installed base >>>> of hard drives spanning several manufacturers, models, and >>>> generations. Nobody was polled. >>>> >>>> Failure Trends in a Large Disk Drive Population: >>>> http://research.google.com/archive/disk_failures.pdf >>>> >>>> - Franc Zabkar >>> What struck me about their study, is the word "humidity" >>> doesn't appear anywhere in the report. And humidity is a >>> factor in disk reliability. >> >> Not heard that touted before. >> >> You sure you're not just confused about the air conditioning issue ? >> Reasoning that since big installations are kept in a/c'd rooms (dry >> atmosphere), non-a/c'd (relatively humid atmosphere) installations >> must be less reliable ? >> >> Big installations aren't air-conditioned because of humidity. >> They're a/c'd because that's the only way TO cool a room. >> Humidity is purely incidental. >> >> That's some pretty weird-ass reasoning you've got. >> >>> Paul >> > > I judge studies by their attention to detail. > > Without knowing what combination of temperature and humidity > is present in each facility, there is no way to judge whether > the missing factor is important or not. > > If you download an OEM spec for a disk drive, there is > a temperature/humidity graph in it. Yes, but that's for un-a/c'd conditions (under which, the majority will be used). In a/c'd conditions, it become irrelevant because the temp is kept low enough that humidity is of no consequence to the cooling capacity of air. It documents the allowed > values of temperature and humidity for a disk drive. Which > means in any study, humidity should be documented (because the > disk manufacturer acknowledges it is a factor). Or at least the > word should appear in the study at least once, as in > "we chose to ignore humidity". > > Paul
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<740evrF10t8qdU1@mid.individual.net>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mailReferences:
<807ac7a0-4fce-414a-a3db-f8884fef9bcc@f19g2000yqo.googlegroups.com> <mrmdnSjYM7Uk2EXUnZ2dnUVZ8syWnZ2d@bt.com> <73r4uoF10icg5U1@mid.individual.net> <grba1v$j4t$1@news.albasani.net> <73sq4bF10rtd4U1@mid.individual.net> <grbkv6$3l4$1@news.albasani.net> <73tmb3F10opn6U1@mid.individual.net> <grcjrv$biv$1@news.albasani.net> <73u3jmF10vo49U1@mid.individual.net> <pnpkt41c9j2n00th6e5mn7co6hojbgeukg@4ax.com> <gre4io$160$1@news.motzarella.org> <740bdjF112p22U1@mid.individual.net> <grevie$m4p$1@news.motzarella.org>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Thread: f5f89,5105a57d261025a1 X-Google-Thread: faa3c,5105a57d261025a1 X-Google-Thread: f4d7c,5105a57d261025a1 X-Google-Attributes: gidf5f89,gidfaa3c,gidf4d7c,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Centre Parting" <nokia.account@ntlworld.com> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,24hoursupport.helpdesk,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Subject: Re: 500 GB WD My Book external H/D suddenly not wanting to fire up Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:51:21 +0100 Lines: 62 Message-ID: <740evrF10t8qdU1@mid.individual.net> References: <807ac7a0-4fce-414a-a3db-f8884fef9bcc@f19g2000yqo.googlegroups.com> <mrmdnSjYM7Uk2EXUnZ2dnUVZ8syWnZ2d@bt.com> <73r4uoF10icg5U1@mid.individual.net> <grba1v$j4t$1@news.albasani.net> <73sq4bF10rtd4U1@mid.individual.net> <grbkv6$3l4$1@news.albasani.net> <73tmb3F10opn6U1@mid.individual.net> <grcjrv$biv$1@news.albasani.net> <73u3jmF10vo49U1@mid.individual.net> <pnpkt41c9j2n00th6e5mn7co6hojbgeukg@4ax.com> <gre4io$160$1@news.motzarella.org> <740bdjF112p22U1@mid.individual.net> <grevie$m4p$1@news.motzarella.org> X-Trace: individual.net qMZZMMb5DziwgTywobLVtwRJ1PBMrBlyFtQWIwidqZBaEmuagl Cancel-Lock: sha1:1+Gq7uhQa9Z/mF49mfT4Pk+frIA= X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090406-0, 04/06/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean