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On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:37:05 +0100, "Duncan"
<duncan(remove)smith99@(remove)hotmail.com> wrote:

>I have just bought a 17" AOC LCD monitor and set at the suggested resolution
>of 1280 x 1024. However the font size is too small and if I go into
>display>settings>advanced and change to large fonts I find sometimes web
>pages and emails have some distortions. I have tried in the applications to
>increase/reduce font sizes but no good.
>Any ideas much appreciated

Try changing the resolution to 1024x768.

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"Peter Boulding" <pjb@UNSPAMpboulding.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:37:05 +0100, "Duncan"
> <duncan(remove)smith99@(remove)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I have just bought a 17" AOC LCD monitor and set at the suggested
resolution
> >of 1280 x 1024. However the font size is too small and if I go into
> >display>settings>advanced and change to large fonts I find sometimes web
> >pages and emails have some distortions. I have tried in the applications
to
> >increase/reduce font sizes but no good.
> >Any ideas much appreciated
>
> Try changing the resolution to 1024x768.

I was about to suggest 800x600

Peter T

"Peter Boulding" <pjb@UNSPAMpboulding.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:37:05 +0100, "Duncan"
> <duncan(remove)smith99@(remove)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I have just bought a 17" AOC LCD monitor and set at the suggested
resolution
> >of 1280 x 1024. However the font size is too small and if I go into
> >display>settings>advanced and change to large fonts I find sometimes web
> >pages and emails have some distortions. I have tried in the applications
to
> >increase/reduce font sizes but no good.
> >Any ideas much appreciated
>
> Try changing the resolution to 1024x768.
>
> --
> Regards      Peter Boulding

Even though the manufacturers say it must be at 1280 x 1024?
Duncan

On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:07:27 +0100, "Duncan"
<duncan(remove)smith99@(remove)hotmail.com> wrote:

>Even though the manufacturers say it must be at 1280 x 1024?

MUST??  Are you sure they don't say "must not be higher than...?"

Recheck the documentation: I'm sure it must support lower
resolutions. IMO you'd need more-than-averagely-perfect eyesight
to be comfortable with 1280x1024 on a 17" display. 

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On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:12:51 +0100, Peter Boulding
<pjb@UNSPAMpboulding.co.uk> wrote:

>Recheck the documentation: I'm sure it must support lower
>resolutions. IMO you'd need more-than-averagely-perfect eyesight
>to be comfortable with 1280x1024 on a 17" display. 

If we're talking about the AOC LM720, it supports both 1024x768
and 800x600 at 75Hz, according to
<http://www.lcd-monitor-online.com/lm720.html>

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>MUST??  Are you sure they don't say "must not be higher than...?"
>
>Recheck the documentation: I'm sure it must support lower
>resolutions. IMO you'd need more-than-averagely-perfect eyesight
>to be comfortable with 1280x1024 on a 17" display. 

This is a LCD, remember.  These are often very unhappy except at
certain  'native' resolutions.

"Laurence Payne" <l@laurenceDELETEpayne.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> >MUST??  Are you sure they don't say "must not be higher than...?"
> >
> >Recheck the documentation: I'm sure it must support lower
> >resolutions. IMO you'd need more-than-averagely-perfect eyesight
> >to be comfortable with 1280x1024 on a 17" display.
>
> This is a LCD, remember.  These are often very unhappy except at
> certain  'native' resolutions.

I have just tried at the lower resolution and the text is very poor/blocky
depsite fiddling with brightness/contarst etc.
Duncan

On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:40:00 +0100, "Duncan"
<duncan(remove)smith99@(remove)hotmail.com> wrote:

>I have just tried at the lower resolution and the text is very poor/blocky
>depsite fiddling with brightness/contarst etc.

You've returned to small fonts and default font size in your
browser?

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"Peter Boulding" <pjb@UNSPAMpboulding.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:40:00 +0100, "Duncan"
> <duncan(remove)smith99@(remove)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I have just tried at the lower resolution and the text is very
poor/blocky
> >depsite fiddling with brightness/contarst etc.
>
> You've returned to small fonts and default font size in your
> browser?
>
> --
> Regards      Peter Boulding

I have tried fiddling with the font size settings and there is no doubt
(unless  the monitor is set at 1280 x 1024) they look blocky.
Duncan

On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:06:33 +0100, "Duncan"
<duncan(remove)smith99@(remove)hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Peter Boulding" <pjb@UNSPAMpboulding.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:m3taav4umea39jndtkinrpa5ilprgo8msp@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:40:00 +0100, "Duncan"
>> <duncan(remove)smith99@(remove)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I have just tried at the lower resolution and the text is very
>poor/blocky
>> >depsite fiddling with brightness/contarst etc.
>>
>> You've returned to small fonts and default font size in your
>> browser?
>>
>> --
>> Regards      Peter Boulding
>
>I have tried fiddling with the font size settings and there is no doubt
>(unless  the monitor is set at 1280 x 1024) they look blocky.
>Duncan
>

With an LCD display the text often does look slighlty blocky, but
that's just the nature of the beast.  The best results are typically
seen using the "native resolution", which is likely 1024x768.  If you
want less-blocky fonts you might try font-smoothing settings in the OS
if they're available.  


Dave
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"Duncan" <duncan(remove)smith99@(remove)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I have just bought a 17" AOC LCD monitor and set at the suggested
resolution
> of 1280 x 1024. However the font size is too small and if I go into
> display>settings>advanced and change to large fonts I find sometimes web
> pages and emails have some distortions. I have tried in the applications
to
> increase/reduce font sizes but no good.
> Any ideas much appreciated
> Duncan

I just put up with the web sites that look crappy at 1280x1024. There are
not that many of them.

I do use ClearType font smoothing though. I much prefer this.

Note that text quality varies substantially among LCD monitors, which is
why this aspect is emphasized in reviews. Not sure how your monitor
is rated for this.

Alan

"Duncan" <duncan(remove)smith99@(remove)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I have just bought a 17" AOC LCD monitor and set at the suggested
resolution
> of 1280 x 1024. However the font size is too small and if I go into
> display>settings>advanced and change to large fonts I find sometimes web
> pages and emails have some distortions. I have tried in the applications
to
> increase/reduce font sizes but no good.
> Any ideas much appreciated
> Duncan
>
I have an LCD monitor, but it's max res is 1024 X 768 at 60Hz, it says max
75Hz at lower res.
Perfect picture, non of your problems, i set my font sizes bigger and icon
size/text etc.
Check your refresh rate is not to high and recheck your spec regarding the
resolution.
Check you are using a suitable driver and not your old monitor driver.
If non of these fix it i'd take it back and try another make/model.

"Duncan" <duncan(remove)smith99@(remove)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I have just bought a 17" AOC LCD monitor and set at the suggested
resolution
> of 1280 x 1024. However the font size is too small and if I go into
> display>settings>advanced and change to large fonts I find sometimes web
> pages and emails have some distortions. I have tried in the applications
to
> increase/reduce font sizes but no good.
> Any ideas much appreciated
> Duncan
>

Forget it and set it to 1024 X 768

"Peter Thompson" <peter@mutare.f9.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Peter Boulding" <pjb@UNSPAMpboulding.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:pipaavk2jr38fe7gc29lne8nsshsvsip9g@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:37:05 +0100, "Duncan"
> > <duncan(remove)smith99@(remove)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >I have just bought a 17" AOC LCD monitor and set at the suggested
> resolution
> > >of 1280 x 1024. However the font size is too small and if I go into
> > >display>settings>advanced and change to large fonts I find sometimes
web
> > >pages and emails have some distortions. I have tried in the
applications
> to
> > >increase/reduce font sizes but no good.
> > >Any ideas much appreciated
> >
> > Try changing the resolution to 1024x768.
>
> I was about to suggest 800x600
>
17" LCDs look crap at that resolution.

"Laurence Payne" <l@laurenceDELETEpayne.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> >MUST??  Are you sure they don't say "must not be higher than...?"
> >
> >Recheck the documentation: I'm sure it must support lower
> >resolutions. IMO you'd need more-than-averagely-perfect eyesight
> >to be comfortable with 1280x1024 on a 17" display.
>
> This is a LCD, remember.  These are often very unhappy except at
> certain  'native' resolutions.

Never seen one that's unhappy at 1024 x 768

"Duncan" <duncan(remove)smith99@(remove)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Laurence Payne" <l@laurenceDELETEpayne.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:orraav44g8j3lr8i186clpv5562se1j29h@4ax.com...
> > >MUST??  Are you sure they don't say "must not be higher than...?"
> > >
> > >Recheck the documentation: I'm sure it must support lower
> > >resolutions. IMO you'd need more-than-averagely-perfect eyesight
> > >to be comfortable with 1280x1024 on a 17" display.
> >
> > This is a LCD, remember.  These are often very unhappy except at
> > certain  'native' resolutions.
>
> I have just tried at the lower resolution and the text is very poor/blocky
> depsite fiddling with brightness/contarst etc.
> Duncan
>
Go in to properties and change the Refresh  75 will probably be clearer rate
what graphics card have you got ?

"Grant" <Grant@Mcleod40.fsnet.co.ku.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Laurence Payne" <l@laurenceDELETEpayne.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:orraav44g8j3lr8i186clpv5562se1j29h@4ax.com...
> > >MUST??  Are you sure they don't say "must not be higher than...?"
> > >
> > >Recheck the documentation: I'm sure it must support lower
> > >resolutions. IMO you'd need more-than-averagely-perfect eyesight
> > >to be comfortable with 1280x1024 on a 17" display.
> >
> > This is a LCD, remember.  These are often very unhappy except at
> > certain  'native' resolutions.
>
> Never seen one that's unhappy at 1024 x 768
>
Me neither

On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:37:05 +0100, "Duncan"
<duncan(remove)smith99@(remove)hotmail.com> wrote:

>I have just bought a 17" AOC LCD monitor and set at the suggested resolution
>of 1280 x 1024. However the font size is too small and if I go into
>display>settings>advanced and change to large fonts I find sometimes web
>pages and emails have some distortions. I have tried in the applications to
>increase/reduce font sizes but no good.
>Any ideas much appreciated
>Duncan

Use better email, newsgroup and browser software.

Imho, Phoenix, Free Agent and Pegasus all scale fonts better than the
MS equivalents.

"Trickle" <trickle@clara.net> wrote in message
>
> Use better email, newsgroup and browser software.
>
> Imho, Phoenix, Free Agent and Pegasus all scale fonts better than the
> MS equivalents.

Oh of course that will solve all his problems.

So the bottom line is then-
If you require a really good image on screen that is a comfortable
resolution to work with i.e. Word fits nicely on screen, not in one corner,
forget LCD if you have room on your desk for a conventional monitor?

"Grant" <Grant@Mcleod40.fsnet.co.ku.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Duncan" <duncan(remove)smith99@(remove)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Laurence Payne" <l@laurenceDELETEpayne.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
message
> > news:orraav44g8j3lr8i186clpv5562se1j29h@4ax.com...
> > > >MUST??  Are you sure they don't say "must not be higher than...?"
> > > >
> > > >Recheck the documentation: I'm sure it must support lower
> > > >resolutions. IMO you'd need more-than-averagely-perfect eyesight
> > > >to be comfortable with 1280x1024 on a 17" display.
> > >
> > > This is a LCD, remember.  These are often very unhappy except at
> > > certain  'native' resolutions.
> >
> > I have just tried at the lower resolution and the text is very
poor/blocky
> > depsite fiddling with brightness/contarst etc.
> > Duncan
> >
> Go in to properties and change the Refresh  75 will probably be clearer
rate
> what graphics card have you got ?


It is set at 75 and the graphics card is intel 82810-DC100 graphics
controller 3.0 and when I looked at downloading the latest drivers from the
ihtel site this is what it said:

"Indicates Intel� Chipsets that do not have integrated graphics. Please
contact your graphics card or system manufacturer to obtain the correct
graphics drivers for your system"

It is Gateway system about 2.5 years old.

Duncan

"Peter Thompson" <peter@mutare.f9.co.uk> wrote in message
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> So the bottom line is then-
> If you require a really good image on screen that is a comfortable
> resolution to work with i.e. Word fits nicely on screen, not in one
corner,
> forget LCD if you have room on your desk for a conventional monitor?
>
>
No that's completely wrong.

>So the bottom line is then-
>If you require a really good image on screen that is a comfortable
>resolution to work with i.e. Word fits nicely on screen, not in one corner,
>forget LCD if you have room on your desk for a conventional monitor?

This topic is attracting some most peculiar opinions!  :-)

>Use better email, newsgroup and browser software.
>
>Imho, Phoenix, Free Agent and Pegasus all scale fonts better than the
>MS equivalents.

Don't be silly.

On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 10:12:11 +0100, Laurence Payne
<l@laurenceDELETEpayne.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>>Use better email, newsgroup and browser software.
>>
>>Imho, Phoenix, Free Agent and Pegasus all scale fonts better than the
>>MS equivalents.
>
>Don't be silly.

Eh? You are disputing that IE gives poor choice of customising font
size?

Phoenix has a minimum font size option. The other 2 programs I mention
are able to fully configure font size. I cannot find the option that
will let IE do this. I have also failed to manage OE's font size
acceptably. I will quote again what he said in his first post.

"I have tried in the applications to
increase/reduce font sizes but no good."

Yeah, but he's chasing the wrong problem.
Nothing will look good on a LCD screen used outside its native
resolution

>I will quote again what he said in his first post.
>
>"I have tried in the applications to
>increase/reduce font sizes but no good."

On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 03:03:02 +0100, "Grant"
<Grant@Mcleod40.fsnet.co.ku.com> wrote:

>
>"Trickle" <trickle@clara.net> wrote in message
>>
>> Use better email, newsgroup and browser software.
>>
>> Imho, Phoenix, Free Agent and Pegasus all scale fonts better than the
>> MS equivalents.
>
>Oh of course that will solve all his problems.


Um, yes? He intimates that it is application text size that he is most
troubled with rather than the overall OS interface being too small. I
have one of my machines set to 1600x1200 which is a little small on a
19inch crt, but have text size in applications set to comensate.

>It is set at 75 and the graphics card is intel 82810-DC100 graphics
>controller 3.0 and when I looked at downloading the latest drivers from the
>ihtel site this is what it said:
>
>"Indicates Intel� Chipsets that do not have integrated graphics. Please
>contact your graphics card or system manufacturer to obtain the correct
>graphics drivers for your system"
>
>It is Gateway system about 2.5 years old.

Perhaps here?
http://www.helpdrivers.com/ingles/listado/panel.asp?marca=Intel&perif=video

Laurence Payne said:

> >So the bottom line is then- If you require a really good image
> >on screen that is a comfortable resolution to work with i.e.
> >Word fits nicely on screen, not in one corner, forget LCD if you
> >have room on your desk for a conventional monitor?
> 
> This topic is attracting some most peculiar opinions!  :-)
 
(Mutters: Nothing new there then!)
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Laurence Payne said:

> >Use better email, newsgroup and browser software.
> >
> >Imho, Phoenix, Free Agent and Pegasus all scale fonts better 
> >than the MS equivalents.
> 
> Don't be silly.

Quite.

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