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7 total messages Started by Ha-Nocri Wed, 16 Oct 2002 21:23
Problem with intel 4 M processor (?)
#3109
Author: Ha-Nocri
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 21:23
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hello!

i have noticed that while running a certain program (eg.
playing game) my computer is slowing down. i have

intel 4 1.6 M
256 RAM
30 GB hdd
ATI mobility 32 mb

it is a laptop (asus). so i think there should be no problem
running a gama eg. gta3.. however, after a while game
starts to brake, slows down and so.. this lasts for a few
minutes and than it starts working normally again. and than
again :) .. my first tought was that processor slows itself
down or something since it has that "M" function that is
supposed to save batteries.. however, i am running it
on an adapter mode so that should not be case.

has anyone expirienced this problem? or has any idea how
to solve it?

tnx, Marko
Re: Problem with intel 4 M processor (?)
#3110
Author: Jesse Miller
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:41
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I would try some other games...  GTA3 is known to run very badly on most any
pc.
"Ha-Nocri" <ha-nocri@inet.hr> wrote in message
news:aokldb$f2q$1@sunce.iskon.hr...
> hello!
>
> i have noticed that while running a certain program (eg.
> playing game) my computer is slowing down. i have
>
> intel 4 1.6 M
> 256 RAM
> 30 GB hdd
> ATI mobility 32 mb
>
> it is a laptop (asus). so i think there should be no problem
> running a gama eg. gta3.. however, after a while game
> starts to brake, slows down and so.. this lasts for a few
> minutes and than it starts working normally again. and than
> again :) .. my first tought was that processor slows itself
> down or something since it has that "M" function that is
> supposed to save batteries.. however, i am running it
> on an adapter mode so that should not be case.
>
> has anyone expirienced this problem? or has any idea how
> to solve it?
>
> tnx, Marko
>
>
Re: Problem with intel 4 M processor (?)
#3111
Author: rickman
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 23:16
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Ha-Nocri wrote:
> 
> hello!
> 
> i have noticed that while running a certain program (eg.
> playing game) my computer is slowing down. i have
> 
> intel 4 1.6 M
> 256 RAM
> 30 GB hdd
> ATI mobility 32 mb
> 
> it is a laptop (asus). so i think there should be no problem
> running a gama eg. gta3.. however, after a while game
> starts to brake, slows down and so.. this lasts for a few
> minutes and than it starts working normally again. and than
> again :) .. my first tought was that processor slows itself
> down or something since it has that "M" function that is
> supposed to save batteries.. however, i am running it
> on an adapter mode so that should not be case.
> 
> has anyone expirienced this problem? or has any idea how
> to solve it?
> 
> tnx, Marko

You are likely seeing the processor overheating and slowing itself down
to prevent damage.  The P4 has built in logic to do this and it operates
automatically.  

-- 

Rick "rickman" Collins

rick.collins@XYarius.com
Ignore the reply address. To email me use the above address with the XY
removed.

Arius - A Signal Processing Solutions Company
Specializing in DSP and FPGA design      URL http://www.arius.com
4 King Ave                               301-682-7772 Voice
Frederick, MD 21701-3110                 301-682-7666 FAX
Re: Problem with intel 4 M processor (?)
#3112
Author: uY
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 08:17
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On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 23:23:58 +0200, "Ha-Nocri" <ha-nocri@inet.hr>
wrote:

>hello!
>
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sloving daun, jea rajt. fak ju dedi.
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Re: Problem with intel 4 M processor (?)
#3113
Author: Ha-Nocri
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 12:42
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> You are likely seeing the processor overheating and slowing itself down
> to prevent damage.  The P4 has built in logic to do this and it operates
> automatically.
>

is there any way to stop this?
Re: Problem with intel 4 M processor (?)
#3114
Author: Ha-Nocri
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 12:45
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"Jesse Miller" <jdm277@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:PWlr9.29693$Lg2.7447764@news2.news.adelphia.net...
> I would try some other games...  GTA3 is known to run very badly on most
any
> pc.


happens also when playing other games and running divix movies.. however,
i think it has something to do with temperature since when i put it on my
bed or someplace like that, it slows it self down even when running movies,
but when i place it on the desk (i guess that cooling system is designed
to work optimaly on the desk) divix movies work fine. but games dont ;(
Re: Problem with intel 4 M processor (?)
#3115
Author: rickman
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 16:27
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Ha-Nocri wrote:
> 
> "Jesse Miller" <jdm277@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:PWlr9.29693$Lg2.7447764@news2.news.adelphia.net...
> > I would try some other games...  GTA3 is known to run very badly on most
> any
> > pc.
> 
> happens also when playing other games and running divix movies.. however,
> i think it has something to do with temperature since when i put it on my
> bed or someplace like that, it slows it self down even when running movies,
> but when i place it on the desk (i guess that cooling system is designed
> to work optimaly on the desk) divix movies work fine. but games dont ;(

That is pretty clear sign that the unit is overheating.  I believe I
have heard that Toshiba is fighting a class action suit about this very
problem.  The laptop makers know that the P4 will not only protect
itself, it will do so without shutting down, but only slowing down.  95%
of the uses of a computer will not make this noticable.  So they felt
they could get away with inadequate cooling when the CPU is running full
tilt.  

Toshiba is being sued for falsely advertising that the machine is an XXX
GHz machine when it can never run at full rate.  I belive there may also
be some issues about the CPU not "really" running at the advertised
speed relative to a P3 or something.  This sounds like a little
grapeshot they through in to make the suit a little "sexier".  That is
not the kind of news that Intel wants floating around.  

There may be a way to control the temperature throttling.  You should
contact your laptop maker and ask.  Don't tell them about the bed thing,
they may get upset.  Just tell them that when the room is hotter you
can't watch movies. 

-- 

Rick "rickman" Collins

rick.collins@XYarius.com
Ignore the reply address. To email me use the above address with the XY
removed.

Arius - A Signal Processing Solutions Company
Specializing in DSP and FPGA design      URL http://www.arius.com
4 King Ave                               301-682-7772 Voice
Frederick, MD 21701-3110                 301-682-7666 FAX
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