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Have you installed the Via drivers, and enabled DMA on the
disk ?

On Sat, 1 Jun 2002 13:49:56 +1000
"Bill" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:

> I recently bought a Seagate 80GB Drive.  The Problem I'm
having is that it
> is working considerably slow compared to by 2 year old
Fujitsu 13GB Drive.
> The write speed on the 80GB drive isn't too bad but the
read speed is the
> main problem.
> 
> I installed Windows XP Home on the 80GB using NTFS as the
file system as I
> suspected that it could be the FAT32 file system
struggling to handle the
> large drive.  Unfortunately it wasn't and Windows XP ran
extremely slowly
> due to the slow read speed.
> 
> I then reformatted the drive again as FAT32 using
Seagate's Disc Wizard
> Software.  This allowed me to change to the Cluster size
to 512bytes which
> is the smallest possible.  This showed some initial speed
up in the read and
> write speed of the drive however with the huge amount of
Clusters now on the
> drive it meant calculating the free space of the drive too
a few minutes
> when accessing the drive through My Computer or any other
software which
> requires to free space of the drive to be reported.
> 
> I took the drive into a local Computer Store who went into
the BIOS and
> manually entered in the drives charatesteriscs.  This then
meant the drive
> in the BIOS was 8455MB.  The drive is still fully
accessible as 80GB within
> Windows however.  They re-partition and formatted the hard
drive and
> returned it and claimed it worked. However this wasn't the
case.
> 
> Another thing I tried was installed Dynamic Disc Overlay
(DDO) which is used
> on motherboards and BIOS's that don't support large hard
drives.  This
> didn't provide any improvement either.
> 
> I have benchmarked the drives using Norton Utilities and
this also shows the
> drive to be noticeable slower than the 13GB.  For example
on the Physical
> Benchmark the 13GB Drive has a Drive Throughput of
13.5MB/s while the 80GB
> is low at 6.0MB/s and has been as low as 0.6MB/sec at one
stage.
> 
> Outline below is some information about my system:
> - CA61 Motherboard with a VIA 693A/596B (PC-133) Chipset.
> - Intel Pentium 3 550Mhz (100Mhz x 5.5)
> - 128MB SDRAM
> 
> IDE Configuration
> - Primary Master - Fujitsu MPE3136AT - (13GB Drive)
> - Primary Slave - Seagate ST380021A - (80GB Drive)
> - Secondary Master - EMPTY
> - CD-ROM 40x/AKU
> 
> Expansion Cards
> AGP - TNT2 M64 32MB
> PCI - Creative Vibra 128 Sound Card
> PCI - 10/100 NIC
> PCI - Lifeview FlyVideo 3000 TV Tuner
> 
> Running Windows 98SE with FAT32 on all drives.
> 
> Sorry for the long post but any help would be greatly
appreciated.
> Feel free also to e-mail me regarding this issue at
> 80gig@REMOVETOEMAILnathster.cjb.net. Remove the
'REMOVETOEMAIL' part.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bill
> 
> 
> 
> 

Try downloading and installing the IDE miniport driver from the
VIA web page.  This fixed some performance issues for me
with an 80GB drive I installed (although it was a Seagate).  It
also tells you the mode the drive is using, off the top of my head
a motherboard like you have should support something like
UDMA 33 or 66.

"George Durbridge" <gdurbrid@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message news:20020601180149.634c3190.gdurbrid@bigpond.net.au...
> Have you installed the Via drivers, and enabled DMA on the
> disk ?
>
> On Sat, 1 Jun 2002 13:49:56 +1000
> "Bill" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > I recently bought a Seagate 80GB Drive.  The Problem I'm
> having is that it
> > is working considerably slow compared to by 2 year old
> Fujitsu 13GB Drive.
> > The write speed on the 80GB drive isn't too bad but the
> read speed is the
> > main problem.
> >
> > I installed Windows XP Home on the 80GB using NTFS as the
> file system as I
> > suspected that it could be the FAT32 file system
> struggling to handle the
> > large drive.  Unfortunately it wasn't and Windows XP ran
> extremely slowly
> > due to the slow read speed.
> >
> > I then reformatted the drive again as FAT32 using
> Seagate's Disc Wizard
> > Software.  This allowed me to change to the Cluster size
> to 512bytes which
> > is the smallest possible.  This showed some initial speed
> up in the read and
> > write speed of the drive however with the huge amount of
> Clusters now on the
> > drive it meant calculating the free space of the drive too
> a few minutes
> > when accessing the drive through My Computer or any other
> software which
> > requires to free space of the drive to be reported.
> >
> > I took the drive into a local Computer Store who went into
> the BIOS and
> > manually entered in the drives charatesteriscs.  This then
> meant the drive
> > in the BIOS was 8455MB.  The drive is still fully
> accessible as 80GB within
> > Windows however.  They re-partition and formatted the hard
> drive and
> > returned it and claimed it worked. However this wasn't the
> case.
> >
> > Another thing I tried was installed Dynamic Disc Overlay
> (DDO) which is used
> > on motherboards and BIOS's that don't support large hard
> drives.  This
> > didn't provide any improvement either.
> >
> > I have benchmarked the drives using Norton Utilities and
> this also shows the
> > drive to be noticeable slower than the 13GB.  For example
> on the Physical
> > Benchmark the 13GB Drive has a Drive Throughput of
> 13.5MB/s while the 80GB
> > is low at 6.0MB/s and has been as low as 0.6MB/sec at one
> stage.
> >
> > Outline below is some information about my system:
> > - CA61 Motherboard with a VIA 693A/596B (PC-133) Chipset.
> > - Intel Pentium 3 550Mhz (100Mhz x 5.5)
> > - 128MB SDRAM
> >
> > IDE Configuration
> > - Primary Master - Fujitsu MPE3136AT - (13GB Drive)
> > - Primary Slave - Seagate ST380021A - (80GB Drive)
> > - Secondary Master - EMPTY
> > - CD-ROM 40x/AKU
> >
> > Expansion Cards
> > AGP - TNT2 M64 32MB
> > PCI - Creative Vibra 128 Sound Card
> > PCI - 10/100 NIC
> > PCI - Lifeview FlyVideo 3000 TV Tuner
> >
> > Running Windows 98SE with FAT32 on all drives.
> >
> > Sorry for the long post but any help would be greatly
> appreciated.
> > Feel free also to e-mail me regarding this issue at
> > 80gig@REMOVETOEMAILnathster.cjb.net. Remove the
> 'REMOVETOEMAIL' part.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >

Run HD Tach. Unless they 'fixed' it, it probably runs on XP.
www.tcdlabs.com
(it needs bios support set enabled for the drive and advanced size check)


"Bill" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message news:ad9ol1$1n3i$1@otis.netspace.net.au 
: I recently bought a Seagate 80GB Drive.  The Problem I'm having is that it
: is working considerably slow compared to by 2 year old Fujitsu 13GB Drive.
: The write speed on the 80GB drive isn't too bad but the read speed is the
: main problem.
: 
[snip]

Thanks for the link to that util Folkert...

I'm running the same drive (Seagate 80gb Barracuda IV, UDMA/66), so here are
my stats from that util to compare Bill:
Max read - 20553 kps
Min read  - 17281 kps
Average   - 19549 kps

Access time  - 11.1ms
Burst read     - 30.2 mps

(CPU usage 3.9% - PIII600, Win98SE, 512mb RAM, Via/Apollo mobo/chipset)

Jason

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