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You need the cable from the drive to the sound card.

Tom
"Bobb" <rjschmoe@nospam_netscape.net> wrote in message
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> Anything special about playing cda files on an old (8x) drive in XP ? Via
> IDE cable - not little 4 pin cable.
> Brand new PC with XP. Added an old CD (Teac58-E) to do disk-disk copy if
> needed etc. The Teac works fine EXCEPT for .cda files .I insert a store
> bought CD into the drive and WMP pops up and after 10 seconds it shows the
> label (it's the right label) and shows that it's playing. Well the CD
light
> is blinking but no audio. After 10-15 seconds there may be .5 second of
> audio then another 10-15 seconds and .5 second of audio ( the audio
counter
> shows 00:01 rather than the actual 20-30 seconds). The cd/system is busy
> doing something - other windows hang etc while this is going on. then
maybe
> after a minute, it'll play fine for a little while, then back to no /bad
> audio. MP3's are fine, data is fine.This is the same drive I used on my
> Win2000 box for years, and it was fine. Several CD's - same. After 20
> attempts 1 will play fine. Hit stop - close WMP and reopen - the problem
is
> back. Only variable is WMP closed/reopened. I've check/unchecked the
"enable
> digital" and rebooted - same thing.I thought maybe it had something to do
> with RealPlayer/WMP conflict. I uninstalled Realplayer - same thing. I
went
> to Teac.com - it  (and Microsoft) shows that it's XP compliant etc.
>
> I haven't yet r/r with another drive from my Win2000 box, but I really
don't
> think it's hw. Using the onboard audio (Compaq 5420 Presario). Latest
> updates . Anyone been here ? Something I'm overlooking ? Went into WMP and
> chose to have it as default everything .
>
>
>

I had one in there - 4 pin CD to CD1 jack on the motherboard - same thing.
It wasn't until tonight that I tried to use this Cd player for music. I do
get internittent sound. I thought I needed that cable. Spent $5 for it today
(my old one had different end on it (tiny vs this one which is the same on
both ends)) and the CD is the same either way. Does the .cda output go to
this 4 pin cable ?
I couldn't figure how the factory CDRW works fine via the same IDE cable
(cda files too), but it does.
After I hooked up the new cable and cda files were bad, I figured to try it
wothout the cable - same thing.
Why / how does it require the 4 pin cable ?
Any setting I need to change ?
Thanks.


"Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
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> You need the cable from the drive to the sound card.
>
> Tom
> "Bobb" <rjschmoe@nospam_netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:dU2w8.37857$WV1.13529189@typhoon.ne.ipsvc.net...
> > Anything special about playing cda files on an old (8x) drive in XP ?
Via
> > IDE cable - not little 4 pin cable.
> > Brand new PC with XP. Added an old CD (Teac58-E) to do disk-disk copy if
> > needed etc. The Teac works fine EXCEPT for .cda files .I insert a store
> > bought CD into the drive and WMP pops up and after 10 seconds it shows
the
> > label (it's the right label) and shows that it's playing. Well the CD
> light
> > is blinking but no audio. After 10-15 seconds there may be .5 second of
> > audio then another 10-15 seconds and .5 second of audio ( the audio
> counter
> > shows 00:01 rather than the actual 20-30 seconds). The cd/system is busy
> > doing something - other windows hang etc while this is going on. then
> maybe
> > after a minute, it'll play fine for a little while, then back to no /bad
> > audio. MP3's are fine, data is fine.This is the same drive I used on my
> > Win2000 box for years, and it was fine. Several CD's - same. After 20
> > attempts 1 will play fine. Hit stop - close WMP and reopen - the problem
> is
> > back. Only variable is WMP closed/reopened. I've check/unchecked the
> "enable
> > digital" and rebooted - same thing.I thought maybe it had something to
do
> > with RealPlayer/WMP conflict. I uninstalled Realplayer - same thing. I
> went
> > to Teac.com - it  (and Microsoft) shows that it's XP compliant etc.
> >
> > I haven't yet r/r with another drive from my Win2000 box, but I really
> don't
> > think it's hw. Using the onboard audio (Compaq 5420 Presario). Latest
> > updates . Anyone been here ? Something I'm overlooking ? Went into WMP
and
> > chose to have it as default everything .
> >
> >
> >
>
>

"Bobb" <rjschmoe@nospam_netscape.net> wrote in message
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|
| I had one in there - 4 pin CD to CD1 jack on the motherboard - same thing.
| It wasn't until tonight that I tried to use this Cd player for music. I do
| get internittent sound. I thought I needed that cable. Spent $5 for it
today
| (my old one had different end on it (tiny vs this one which is the same on
| both ends)) and the CD is the same either way. Does the .cda output go to
| this 4 pin cable ?
| I couldn't figure how the factory CDRW works fine via the same IDE cable
| (cda files too), but it does.
| After I hooked up the new cable and cda files were bad, I figured to try
it
| wothout the cable - same thing.
| Why / how does it require the 4 pin cable ?
| Any setting I need to change ?
| Thanks.
|

The issue here is playing digital audio vs. playing analog audio.

Earlier CD-ROM drives and earlier operating systems only supported analog
audio, which is what the 4-pin cable provides. You need to connect the cable
between the CD-ROM drive and the sound card.

Newer CD-ROM drives and newer operating systems (like WinXP) support digital
audio, which is transfered over the IDE cable. No need to connect the 4-pin
cable.

Old CD-ROM drive with new operating system requires you to use analog audio
(so need the 4-pin cable). You may need to go to Control Panel for that
CD-ROM drive, go to Properties and UNcheck "Enable Digital CD Playback".

Hope this helps,

SB

I hooked up the 4 pin cable again - same thing. I cleared the "use digital
audio box " (messing with this all day)under drive properties also. Lots of
combinations - the result never changes. It's as if, by default, it uses the
IDE cable rather than this 4 pin cable ??
Ignoring the cable for a while...
If I open Explorer-rightclick-explore this CD then select a file and play:
It does CD activity for 10 seconds then I hear the first note of the
song,another 10 seconds....
meanwhile if I can get the attention of the original explorer window, it's
hung. I have to do an end process to close it.
When I look at task manager - there are 2 instances of WMP. I killed them
both but only one goes away.
What's that about ? Is it supposed to always be there ?
This is a brand new install - new machine last week. This is the first time
I've tried the Cda files.
I had installed Realplayer and Quicktime (Reason for getting XP was the
audio/video uses). I deinstalled Realplayer.
I didn't bother deinstalling Quicktime. In Quicktime there are no settings
to really mess with for .cda
I don't have another box to compare to, so the help is appreciated.


"Spam Buster" <s_p_a_m__buster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Bobb" <rjschmoe@nospam_netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:pD3w8.37898$WV1.13563205@typhoon.ne.ipsvc.net...
> |
> | I had one in there - 4 pin CD to CD1 jack on the motherboard - same
thing.
> | It wasn't until tonight that I tried to use this Cd player for music. I
do
> | get internittent sound. I thought I needed that cable. Spent $5 for it
> today
> | (my old one had different end on it (tiny vs this one which is the same
on
> | both ends)) and the CD is the same either way. Does the .cda output go
to
> | this 4 pin cable ?
> | I couldn't figure how the factory CDRW works fine via the same IDE cable
> | (cda files too), but it does.
> | After I hooked up the new cable and cda files were bad, I figured to try
> it
> | wothout the cable - same thing.
> | Why / how does it require the 4 pin cable ?
> | Any setting I need to change ?
> | Thanks.
> |
>
> The issue here is playing digital audio vs. playing analog audio.
>
> Earlier CD-ROM drives and earlier operating systems only supported analog
> audio, which is what the 4-pin cable provides. You need to connect the
cable
> between the CD-ROM drive and the sound card.
>
> Newer CD-ROM drives and newer operating systems (like WinXP) support
digital
> audio, which is transfered over the IDE cable. No need to connect the
4-pin
> cable.
>
> Old CD-ROM drive with new operating system requires you to use analog
audio
> (so need the 4-pin cable). You may need to go to Control Panel for that
> CD-ROM drive, go to Properties and UNcheck "Enable Digital CD Playback".
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> SB
>
>

I may have missed it.  Do you have a sound card or is the sound on 
the motherboard?  In either case, you might have to fiddle with bios 
settings to straighten out this digital/analog situation.  Too, why 
not contact Compaq?

"Bobb" <rjschmoe@nospam_netscape.net> wrote on 20 Apr 2002

> I hooked up the 4 pin cable again - same thing. I cleared the
> "use digital audio box " (messing with this all day)under drive
> properties also. Lots of combinations - the result never
> changes. It's as if, by default, it uses the IDE cable rather
> than this 4 pin cable ?? I

Cleared that "enable digital" box on the drive properties. THEN, in
WMP-tools - options - devices - (picked the old CD) - properties, ANALOG
playback selected, now it works.
I thought that I had done that about 20 times before posting, but perhaps a
combo of checking those boxes and then rebooting and cabling fixed it, but I
couldn't get it before.
Thanks for the help.

Side note: I thought that since XP recognized my old CD as a Teac CD58-E ,
it would have selected the proper setting when installing the drive. I guess
I'm giving them too much credit again. It did crash the app (WMP or
RealPlayer) 5-6 times while I was trying to get it going, and once when I
ejected the CD while it was attempting to play, it crashed XP.


"Spam Buster" <s_p_a_m__buster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Bobb" <rjschmoe@nospam_netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:pD3w8.37898$WV1.13563205@typhoon.ne.ipsvc.net...
> |
> | I had one in there - 4 pin CD to CD1 jack on the motherboard - same
thing.
> | It wasn't until tonight that I tried to use this Cd player for music. I
do
> | get internittent sound. I thought I needed that cable. Spent $5 for it
> today
> | (my old one had different end on it (tiny vs this one which is the same
on
> | both ends)) and the CD is the same either way. Does the .cda output go
to
> | this 4 pin cable ?
> | I couldn't figure how the factory CDRW works fine via the same IDE cable
> | (cda files too), but it does.
> | After I hooked up the new cable and cda files were bad, I figured to try
> it
> | wothout the cable - same thing.
> | Why / how does it require the 4 pin cable ?
> | Any setting I need to change ?
> | Thanks.
> |
>
> The issue here is playing digital audio vs. playing analog audio.
>
> Earlier CD-ROM drives and earlier operating systems only supported analog
> audio, which is what the 4-pin cable provides. You need to connect the
cable
> between the CD-ROM drive and the sound card.
>
> Newer CD-ROM drives and newer operating systems (like WinXP) support
digital
> audio, which is transfered over the IDE cable. No need to connect the
4-pin
> cable.
>
> Old CD-ROM drive with new operating system requires you to use analog
audio
> (so need the 4-pin cable). You may need to go to Control Panel for that
> CD-ROM drive, go to Properties and UNcheck "Enable Digital CD Playback".
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> SB
>
>

"Bobb" <rjschmoe@nospam_netscape.net> wrote in message
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| Cleared that "enable digital" box on the drive properties. THEN, in
| WMP-tools - options - devices - (picked the old CD) - properties, ANALOG
| playback selected, now it works.
| I thought that I had done that about 20 times before posting, but perhaps
a
| combo of checking those boxes and then rebooting and cabling fixed it, but
I
| couldn't get it before.
| Thanks for the help.
|
| Side note: I thought that since XP recognized my old CD as a Teac CD58-E ,
| it would have selected the proper setting when installing the drive. I
guess
| I'm giving them too much credit again. It did crash the app (WMP or
| RealPlayer) 5-6 times while I was trying to get it going, and once when I
| ejected the CD while it was attempting to play, it crashed XP.
|

I'm glad you got it to work. I'm sorry, I had forgotten about the setting in
Media Player.
I remember that WinMe was intelligent in recognizing which CD-ROM drive was
capable of playing digitally. Not a clue as to why WinXP lost that
capability.

Buster