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Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> I want to be able to print to *NON* inkjet printable CDs and DVDs.

> You can write on these fine with a Sharpie etc but when you use normal ink, it takes a hell of a long time for the ink 
> to dry enough so it doesnt smudge.
> I just want to put a little bit of text on the CD or DVD, not full artwork etc obviously.

> Has anyone seen anyone offering ink thats similar to whats in a Sharpie etc ?
> Better if the ink is meant for an inkjet printer, because most printers that will print on CDs and DVDs have a 
> separate print head and since I dont want to have to fart around flushing the heads after every print on a CD or 
> DVD...

Whoops, another brain fart. I want to do that in a Canon printer that takes BCI-6 and BCI-3 ink tanks 

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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>I want to be able to print to *NON* inkjet printable CDs and DVDs.
>
> You can write on these fine with a Sharpie etc but when you use normal 
> ink,
> it takes a hell of a long time for the ink to dry enough so it doesnt 
> smudge.
>
> I just want to put a little bit of text on the CD or DVD, not full artwork 
> etc obviously.
>
> Has anyone seen anyone offering ink thats similar to whats in a Sharpie 
> etc ?
>
> Better if the ink is meant for an inkjet printer, because most printers 
> that will
> print on CDs and DVDs have a separate print head and since I dont want to
> have to fart around flushing the heads after every print on a CD or DVD...
>

You cannot use an inkjet printer to print to non-inkjet media.  And NO, they 
don't use a separate head for discs.

What you want is available in any of the many available thermal printers and 
ribbon printers. 

DanG <nospam@q.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>> I want to be able to print to *NON* inkjet printable CDs and DVDs.

>> You can write on these fine with a Sharpie etc but when you use normal ink,
>> it takes a hell of a long time for the ink to dry enough so it doesnt smudge.

>> I just want to put a little bit of text on the CD or DVD, not full artwork etc obviously.

>> Has anyone seen anyone offering ink thats similar to whats in a Sharpie etc ?

>> Better if the ink is meant for an inkjet printer, because most printers that will print on CDs and DVDs have a 
>> separate print head and since I dont want to have to fart around flushing the heads after every print on a CD or 
>> DVD...

> You cannot use an inkjet printer to print to non-inkjet media.

You can, actually, it just takes a long time for the ink to dry, like days.

> And NO, they don't use a separate head for discs.

Never said they did. I JUST said that the heads are separate from the ink tanks.

> What you want is available in any of the many available thermal printers and ribbon printers.

Sure, but I want to use normal cheap inkjet printers that can print on CDs and DVDs. 

Rod Speed wrote:
> DanG <nospam@q.com> wrote
> 
>>Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> 
> 
>>>I want to be able to print to *NON* inkjet printable CDs and DVDs.
> 
> 
>>>You can write on these fine with a Sharpie etc but when you use normal ink,
>>>it takes a hell of a long time for the ink to dry enough so it doesnt smudge.
> 
> 
>>>I just want to put a little bit of text on the CD or DVD, not full artwork etc obviously.
> 
> 
>>>Has anyone seen anyone offering ink thats similar to whats in a Sharpie etc ?
> 
> 
>>>Better if the ink is meant for an inkjet printer, because most printers that will print on CDs and DVDs have a 
>>>separate print head and since I dont want to have to fart around flushing the heads after every print on a CD or 
>>>DVD...
> 
> 
>>You cannot use an inkjet printer to print to non-inkjet media.
> 
> 
> You can, actually, it just takes a long time for the ink to dry, like days.
> 
> 
>>And NO, they don't use a separate head for discs.
> 
> 
> Never said they did. I JUST said that the heads are separate from the ink tanks.
> 
> 
>>What you want is available in any of the many available thermal printers and ribbon printers.
> 
> 
> Sure, but I want to use normal cheap inkjet printers that can print on CDs and DVDs. 
> 
> 


I have not come across any solvent based inks for inkjet printers. I 
would have thought, if available, would tend to dry up like the pens 
left uncapped.

Printable CD's are much the same price now.

Sticky labels are too expensive and they end up stuffing the CD.

I use pens.

Rod Speed wrote:
> I want to be able to print to *NON* inkjet printable CDs and DVDs.
> 
> You can write on these fine with a Sharpie etc but when you use normal ink,
> it takes a hell of a long time for the ink to dry enough so it doesnt smudge.
> 
> I just want to put a little bit of text on the CD or DVD, not full artwork etc obviously.
> 
> Has anyone seen anyone offering ink thats similar to whats in a Sharpie etc ?
> 
> Better if the ink is meant for an inkjet printer, because most printers that will
> print on CDs and DVDs have a separate print head and since I dont want to
> have to fart around flushing the heads after every print on a CD or DVD...

If you want to use solvent ink such as the ink that's in Sharpie pens, 
be prepared to pass a lot of gas because you're going to flush-fart five 
times for every disk that you print on. Maybe if you use original 
manufacturer ink for this, you will learn to break wind enjoyably: your 
shit will be sweet and people will come from miles around to smell the 
perfume of your flatulance.

Oh my god, I just saw the mess of cross-posting here. No matter -- out 
it goes.

Richard

Rob. <mesa@mine.com.> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> DanG <nospam@q.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>>> I want to be able to print to *NON* inkjet printable CDs and DVDs.

>>>> You can write on these fine with a Sharpie etc but when you use normal ink, it takes a hell of a long time for the 
>>>> ink to dry enough so it doesnt smudge.

>>>> I just want to put a little bit of text on the CD or DVD, not full artwork etc obviously.

>>>> Has anyone seen anyone offering ink thats similar to whats in a Sharpie etc ?

>>>> Better if the ink is meant for an inkjet printer, because most
>>>> printers that will print on CDs and DVDs have a separate print
>>>> head and since I dont want to have to fart around flushing the
>>>> heads after every print on a CD or DVD...

>>> You cannot use an inkjet printer to print to non-inkjet media.

>> You can, actually, it just takes a long time for the ink to dry, like days.

>>> And NO, they don't use a separate head for discs.

>> Never said they did. I JUST said that the heads are separate from the ink tanks.

>>> What you want is available in any of the many available thermal printers and ribbon printers.

>> Sure, but I want to use normal cheap inkjet printers that can print on CDs and DVDs.

> I have not come across any solvent based inks for inkjet printers. I would have thought, if available, would tend to 
> dry up like the pens left uncapped.

Yeah, thats essentially why I asked the original question, it wasnt clear if its actually feasible.

Some inkjet printers do basically cap the print head when its not in use,
but that tends to be the printers that have the head integrated into the tank
and those arent usually the ones that can print on CDs and DVDs directly.

> Printable CD's are much the same price now.

Not necessarily if you are buying the best priced blanks that
you can find from whats on special at places like Woolys etc.

> Sticky labels are too expensive and they end up stuffing the CD.

Yeah, I've never used those.

> I use pens.

So do I, but I would prefer to be able to print on them, like I said. 

Richard Steinfeld <rgsteinBUTREMOVETHIS@sonicANDTHISTOO.net> wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> I want to be able to print to *NON* inkjet printable CDs and DVDs.
>>
>> You can write on these fine with a Sharpie etc but when you use
>> normal ink, it takes a hell of a long time for the ink to dry enough so it
>> doesnt smudge. I just want to put a little bit of text on the CD or DVD, not full
>> artwork etc obviously. Has anyone seen anyone offering ink thats similar to whats in a
>> Sharpie etc ? Better if the ink is meant for an inkjet printer, because most
>> printers that will print on CDs and DVDs have a separate print head and since I dont
>> want to have to fart around flushing the heads after every print on a CD or
>> DVD...
>
> If you want to use solvent ink such as the ink that's in Sharpie pens,
> be prepared to pass a lot of gas because you're going to flush-fart
> five times for every disk that you print on. Maybe if you use original
> manufacturer ink for this, you will learn to break wind enjoyably:
> your shit will be sweet and people will come from miles around to
> smell the perfume of your flatulance.

> Oh my god, I just saw the mess of cross-posting here.

There was a good reason for that cross posting.

> No matter -- out it goes.

No it didnt. 

"Richard Steinfeld" <rgsteinBUTREMOVETHIS@sonicANDTHISTOO.net> wrote in 
message news:13piv9djjn74142@corp.supernews.com...
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> I want to be able to print to *NON* inkjet printable CDs and DVDs.
>>
>> You can write on these fine with a Sharpie etc but when you use normal 
>> ink,
>> it takes a hell of a long time for the ink to dry enough so it doesnt 
>> smudge.
>>
>> I just want to put a little bit of text on the CD or DVD, not full 
>> artwork etc obviously.
>>
>> Has anyone seen anyone offering ink thats similar to whats in a Sharpie 
>> etc ?
>>
>> Better if the ink is meant for an inkjet printer, because most printers 
>> that will
>> print on CDs and DVDs have a separate print head and since I dont want to
>> have to fart around flushing the heads after every print on a CD or 
>> DVD...
>
> If you want to use solvent ink such as the ink that's in Sharpie pens, be 
> prepared to pass a lot of gas because you're going to flush-fart five 
> times for every disk that you print on. Maybe if you use original 
> manufacturer ink for this, you will learn to break wind enjoyably: your 
> shit will be sweet and people will come from miles around to smell the 
> perfume of your flatulance.
>
> Oh my god, I just saw the mess of cross-posting here. No matter -- out it 
> goes.
>
> Richard

LOL.  Good one Richard.
Great to read a bit of humour here from time to time. :-)

In response to Rod's question.
Just as easy to write neatly using a standard CD-R pen.
They come in about 6 different colours AFAIK as well as different tip 
thicknesses.
Officeworks stocked them the last time I looked.

Cheers,
Alan

Rod Speed wrote:
> I want to be able to print to *NON* inkjet printable CDs and DVDs.

The old stick on label?

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:5vtef8F1o0r4uU1@mid.individual.net...
<snip>
> Some inkjet printers do basically cap the print head when its not in 
> use,
> but that tends to be the printers that have the head integrated into the 
> tank
> and those arent usually the ones that can print on CDs and DVDs 
> directly.
>
>> Printable CD's are much the same price now.
>
> Not necessarily if you are buying the best priced blanks that
> you can find from whats on special at places like Woolys etc.

Had the same decisions to make (Used CD Stomper labels for a while) but 
finished up buying a Canon Pixma ip-4000 printer.
Don't have a problem with heads clogging and only "clean" them when 
replacing ink tanks.
(I buy the printable CD and DVD blanks now)

The Canon CD print software is excellent IMHO  :-) 

Sunny <wombatlodge@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5vtef8F1o0r4uU1@mid.individual.net...
> <snip>
>> Some inkjet printers do basically cap the print head when its not in
>> use,
>> but that tends to be the printers that have the head integrated into
>> the tank
>> and those arent usually the ones that can print on CDs and DVDs
>> directly.
>>
>>> Printable CD's are much the same price now.
>>
>> Not necessarily if you are buying the best priced blanks that
>> you can find from whats on special at places like Woolys etc.
>
> Had the same decisions to make (Used CD Stomper labels for a while)
> but finished up buying a Canon Pixma ip-4000 printer.
> Don't have a problem with heads clogging and only "clean" them when
> replacing ink tanks.

Yeah, mine is an ip3000, got it because it was the last with the ink tanks with no chips.

> (I buy the printable CD and DVD blanks now)

Part of the problem is the hundreds I have already.

There's obviously no good reason why I cant write
on those and only buy printable blanks in future.

> The Canon CD print software is excellent IMHO  :-)

Yeah, very decent. 

Alan Rutlidge <don't_spam_me_rutlidge@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> "Richard Steinfeld" <rgsteinBUTREMOVETHIS@sonicANDTHISTOO.net> wrote
> in message news:13piv9djjn74142@corp.supernews.com...
>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>> I want to be able to print to *NON* inkjet printable CDs and DVDs.
>>>
>>> You can write on these fine with a Sharpie etc but when you use
>>> normal ink,
>>> it takes a hell of a long time for the ink to dry enough so it
>>> doesnt smudge.
>>>
>>> I just want to put a little bit of text on the CD or DVD, not full
>>> artwork etc obviously.
>>>
>>> Has anyone seen anyone offering ink thats similar to whats in a
>>> Sharpie etc ?
>>>
>>> Better if the ink is meant for an inkjet printer, because most
>>> printers that will
>>> print on CDs and DVDs have a separate print head and since I dont
>>> want to have to fart around flushing the heads after every print on
>>> a CD or DVD...
>>
>> If you want to use solvent ink such as the ink that's in Sharpie
>> pens, be prepared to pass a lot of gas because you're going to
>> flush-fart five times for every disk that you print on. Maybe if you
>> use original manufacturer ink for this, you will learn to break wind
>> enjoyably: your shit will be sweet and people will come from miles
>> around to smell the perfume of your flatulance.
>>
>> Oh my god, I just saw the mess of cross-posting here. No matter --
>> out it goes.
>>
>> Richard
>
> LOL.  Good one Richard.
> Great to read a bit of humour here from time to time. :-)

> In response to Rod's question.
> Just as easy to write neatly using a standard CD-R pen.

I just use Sharpies.

> They come in about 6 different colours AFAIK as well as different tip thicknesses.
> Officeworks stocked them the last time I looked.

Almost everyone, including even Woolys, has Sharpies. 

Terryc <newsthreespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> I want to be able to print to *NON* inkjet printable CDs and DVDs.
>
> The old stick on label?

Never liked those.

I basically prefer hand written labels using Sharpies to those,
but was wondering if its possible to print on non printable blanks.

Clearly it is possible, just rather slow to dry. Guess thats no big deal. 

Rod Speed wrote:
> Terryc <newsthreespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote:

> Clearly it is possible, just rather slow to dry. Guess thats no big deal. 

My experience as well, but they never truely dry and smudge with a wet 
finger.

You could try cutting the amount of ink down as far as possible, but I 
guess there is any setting lower than Cd anyway.
> 
> 

Terryc <newsthreespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Terryc <newsthreespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote

>> Clearly it is possible, just rather slow to dry. Guess thats no big deal.

> My experience as well, but they never truely dry and smudge with a wet finger.

I dont care about that, since I dont use wet fingers on them.

> You could try cutting the amount of ink down as far as possible, but I guess there is any setting lower than Cd 
> anyway.

There is actually, but it doesnt help noticeably. 

Rod Speed wrote:
> I want to be able to print to *NON* inkjet printable CDs and DVDs.
> 
> You can write on these fine with a Sharpie etc but when you use normal ink,
> it takes a hell of a long time for the ink to dry enough so it doesnt smudge.
> 
> I just want to put a little bit of text on the CD or DVD, not full artwork etc obviously.
> 
> Has anyone seen anyone offering ink thats similar to whats in a Sharpie etc ?
> 
> Better if the ink is meant for an inkjet printer, because most printers that will
> print on CDs and DVDs have a separate print head and since I dont want to
> have to fart around flushing the heads after every print on a CD or DVD... 
> 
> 
Staedler of Germany markets a 4-pen set of markers that are safe for CDs 
and DVDs. They dry rather quickly, and are said not to bother the discs' 
layers. They seem to come only with Medium (really thick) points, making 
small writing not legible.

Morton

Morton wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
> 
>> I want to be able to print to *NON* inkjet printable CDs and DVDs.
>>
>> You can write on these fine with a Sharpie etc but when you use normal 
>> ink,
>> it takes a hell of a long time for the ink to dry enough so it doesnt 
>> smudge.
>>
>> I just want to put a little bit of text on the CD or DVD, not full 
>> artwork etc obviously.
>>
>> Has anyone seen anyone offering ink thats similar to whats in a 
>> Sharpie etc ?
>>
>> Better if the ink is meant for an inkjet printer, because most 
>> printers that will
>> print on CDs and DVDs have a separate print head and since I dont want to
>> have to fart around flushing the heads after every print on a CD or 
>> DVD...
>>
> Staedler of Germany markets a 4-pen set of markers that are safe for CDs 
> and DVDs. They dry rather quickly, and are said not to bother the discs' 
> layers. They seem to come only with Medium (really thick) points, making 
> small writing not legible.
> 
> Morton
  They make lots of sizes.  Try overhead pens for the finer types.

Morton <mort@cloud9.net> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> I want to be able to print to *NON* inkjet printable CDs and DVDs.

>> You can write on these fine with a Sharpie etc but when you use normal ink, it takes a hell of a long time for the 
>> ink to dry enough so it doesnt smudge.

>> I just want to put a little bit of text on the CD or DVD, not full artwork etc obviously.

>> Has anyone seen anyone offering ink thats similar to whats in a Sharpie etc ?

>> Better if the ink is meant for an inkjet printer, because most printers that will print on CDs and DVDs have a 
>> separate print head and since I dont want to have to fart around flushing the heads after every print on a CD or 
>> DVD...

> Staedler of Germany markets a 4-pen set of markers that are safe for
> CDs and DVDs. They dry rather quickly, and are said not to bother the
> discs' layers. They seem to come only with Medium (really thick)
> points, making small writing not legible.

I said I have been using Sharpies and they work fine.

I want to print using a printer instead. 

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> Morton <mort@cloud9.net> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>
>>> I want to be able to print to *NON* inkjet printable CDs and DVDs.
>
>>> You can write on these fine with a Sharpie etc but when you use normal 
>>> ink, it takes a hell of a long time for the ink to dry enough so it 
>>> doesnt smudge.
>
>>> I just want to put a little bit of text on the CD or DVD, not full 
>>> artwork etc obviously.
>
>>> Has anyone seen anyone offering ink thats similar to whats in a Sharpie 
>>> etc ?
>
>>> Better if the ink is meant for an inkjet printer, because most printers 
>>> that will print on CDs and DVDs have a separate print head and since I 
>>> dont want to have to fart around flushing the heads after every print on 
>>> a CD or DVD...
>
>> Staedler of Germany markets a 4-pen set of markers that are safe for
>> CDs and DVDs. They dry rather quickly, and are said not to bother the
>> discs' layers. They seem to come only with Medium (really thick)
>> points, making small writing not legible.
>
> I said I have been using Sharpies and they work fine.
>
> I want to print using a printer instead.
>

Just use the proper media you tightwad and continue to use a Sharpie on your 
existing media.

It's not fucking brain surgery. 

"Klompmeester" <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote in message 
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>
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:5vv633F1n68siU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Morton <mort@cloud9.net> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>
>>>> I want to be able to print to *NON* inkjet printable CDs and DVDs.
>>
>>>> You can write on these fine with a Sharpie etc but when you use normal 
>>>> ink, it takes a hell of a long time for the ink to dry enough so it 
>>>> doesnt smudge.
>>
>>>> I just want to put a little bit of text on the CD or DVD, not full 
>>>> artwork etc obviously.
>>
>>>> Has anyone seen anyone offering ink thats similar to whats in a Sharpie 
>>>> etc ?
>>
>>>> Better if the ink is meant for an inkjet printer, because most printers 
>>>> that will print on CDs and DVDs have a separate print head and since I 
>>>> dont want to have to fart around flushing the heads after every print 
>>>> on a CD or DVD...
>>
>>> Staedler of Germany markets a 4-pen set of markers that are safe for
>>> CDs and DVDs. They dry rather quickly, and are said not to bother the
>>> discs' layers. They seem to come only with Medium (really thick)
>>> points, making small writing not legible.
>>
>> I said I have been using Sharpies and they work fine.
>>
>> I want to print using a printer instead.
>>
>
> Just use the proper media you tightwad and continue to use a Sharpie on 
> your existing media.
>
> It's not fucking brain surgery.
>


:-)


Pretty much spot on


I have the Canon i865 and it prints brilliantly on printable CD/Dvds


There is no doubt they could make an ink that would work on normal cd/dvds 
but I doubt it would be cost effective for the company 

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:5vt4d3F1nji42U1@mid.individual.net...
>I want to be able to print to *NON* inkjet printable CDs and DVDs.
>
> You can write on these fine with a Sharpie etc but when you use normal 
> ink,
> it takes a hell of a long time for the ink to dry enough so it doesnt 
> smudge.
>
> I just want to put a little bit of text on the CD or DVD, not full artwork 
> etc obviously.

Yes and I want to eat broccoli and have it taste like filet mignon.

That ain't happening either. 

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:15:30 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

(snip)

>Yeah, mine is an ip3000, got it because it was the last with the ink tanks with no chips.

likewise

Have you had any issues with nozzle blockages on the print head, and if so how
readily were you able to clear them?

rebel <me@privacy.net> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>> Yeah, mine is an ip3000, got it because it was the last with the ink tanks with no chips.

> likewise

> Have you had any issues with nozzle blockages on the print head,

Nope, but then I've only been using it for a week or so, been too slack to take it out of the box till now.

> and if so how readily were you able to clear them? 

Rod Speed wrote:
> I want to be able to print to *NON* inkjet printable CDs and DVDs.
> 
> You can write on these fine with a Sharpie etc but when you use normal ink,
> it takes a hell of a long time for the ink to dry enough so it doesnt smudge.
> 
> I just want to put a little bit of text on the CD or DVD, not full artwork etc obviously.
> 
> Has anyone seen anyone offering ink thats similar to whats in a Sharpie etc ?
> 
> Better if the ink is meant for an inkjet printer, because most printers that will
> print on CDs and DVDs have a separate print head and since I dont want to
> have to fart around flushing the heads after every print on a CD or DVD... 
> 
> 
Use a thermal printer.

Mike
-- 
mrichter@cpl.net
http://www.mrichter.com/

Mike Richter <mrichter@cpl.net> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> I want to be able to print to *NON* inkjet printable CDs and DVDs.

>> You can write on these fine with a Sharpie etc but when you use normal ink, it takes a hell of a long time for the 
>> ink to dry enough so it doesnt smudge.

>> I just want to put a little bit of text on the CD or DVD, not full artwork etc obviously.

>> Has anyone seen anyone offering ink thats similar to whats in a Sharpie etc ?

>> Better if the ink is meant for an inkjet printer, because most printers that will print on CDs and DVDs have a 
>> separate print head and since I dont want to have to fart around flushing the heads after every print on a CD or 
>> DVD...

> Use a thermal printer.

No thanks, cant justify the cost of those, even used.

The marginally higher price for an inject printer than can print on CDs and DVDs is trivial to justify tho. 

The inks in felt tips like Sharpies are not waterbase in most cases, but 
solvent based with a volatile solvent which in a standard inkjet printer 
would dry out in no time and clog the heads up.

Even if "Sharpie ink" were available, I would not suggest loading it in 
a household inkjet. With an Epson printer it would probably clog with 
other brands, it might even catch fire when some types of heads heated 
the ink up.



Art

Rod Speed wrote:

> I want to be able to print to *NON* inkjet printable CDs and DVDs.
> 
> You can write on these fine with a Sharpie etc but when you use normal ink,
> it takes a hell of a long time for the ink to dry enough so it doesnt smudge.
> 
> I just want to put a little bit of text on the CD or DVD, not full artwork etc obviously.
> 
> Has anyone seen anyone offering ink thats similar to whats in a Sharpie etc ?
> 
> Better if the ink is meant for an inkjet printer, because most printers that will
> print on CDs and DVDs have a separate print head and since I dont want to
> have to fart around flushing the heads after every print on a CD or DVD... 
> 
> 

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Rod Speed wrote:
>> I want to be able to print to *NON* inkjet printable CDs and DVDs.
>>
>> You can write on these fine with a Sharpie etc but when you use 
>> normal ink,
>> it takes a hell of a long time for the ink to dry enough so it doesnt 
>> smudge.
>>
>> I just want to put a little bit of text on the CD or DVD, not full 
>> artwork etc obviously.
>>
>> Has anyone seen anyone offering ink thats similar to whats in a 
>> Sharpie etc ?
>>
>> Better if the ink is meant for an inkjet printer, because most 
>> printers that will
>> print on CDs and DVDs have a separate print head and since I dont 
>> want to
>> have to fart around flushing the heads after every print on a CD or 
>> DVD...
 From Maxell's web site:

    * Question:  What's the best way to Label CD-R Media?
    * Answer:  Use a felt-tipped water based pen such as the Maxell Disk
      Writer (CD-P1, Item #190705).

I suspect that Office Max or Office Depot would have such pens.

Keith

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<blockquote cite="mid:fnhg34$e1p$1@madmax.keyway.net" type="cite">
  <blockquote type="cite">I want to be able to print to *NON* inkjet
printable CDs and DVDs.
    <br>
    <br>
You can write on these fine with a Sharpie etc but when you use normal
ink,
    <br>
it takes a hell of a long time for the ink to dry enough so it doesnt
smudge.
    <br>
    <br>
I just want to put a little bit of text on the CD or DVD, not full
artwork etc obviously.
    <br>
    <br>
Has anyone seen anyone offering ink thats similar to whats in a Sharpie
etc ?
    <br>
    <br>
Better if the ink is meant for an inkjet printer, because most printers
that will
    <br>
print on CDs and DVDs have a separate print head and since I dont want
to
    <br>
have to fart around flushing the heads after every print on a CD or
DVD... <br>
  </blockquote>
</blockquote>
From Maxell's web site:<br>
<ul>
  <li><span class="bold">Question:</span>&nbsp; What's the best way to Label
CD-R Media?</li>
  <li><span class="bold">Answer:&nbsp; </span>Use a felt-tipped water based
pen such as the Maxell Disk Writer (CD-P1, Item #190705).<br>
  </li>
</ul>
I suspect that Office Max or Office Depot would have such pens.<br>
<br>
Keith<br>
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Mike Richter squeaked:
> <snip>

Does Sanford know anything now, Mikey?

    =======================
    From:    smh
    Date:    12/8/04
    Subject: DVD Labels

    Mike Richter crapped:
    >
    > Sanford, maker of the Sharpie, recommends against it for
    > the purpose, suggesting their pens with water-based ink.
    >
    > Of course, what do they know?

    Of course, you must have just dug that out of your ass,
    isn't that right, Mikey?

    (From CD-R FAQ)
    The official word from Sanford is:

    "Sanford has used Sharpie Markers on CDs for years and we have
     never experienced a problem. We do not believe that the Sharpie
     ink can affect these CDs, however we have not performed any
     long-term laboratory testing to verify this. We have spoken to
     many major CD manufacturers about this issue. They use the
     Sharpie Markers on CDs internally as well, and do not believe
     that the Sharpie Ink will cause any harm to their products.

    Sanford Consumer Affairs"
    =========================

Keith <noname@nowhere.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> I want to be able to print to *NON* inkjet printable CDs and DVDs.

>> You can write on these fine with a Sharpie etc but when you use normal ink,
>> it takes a hell of a long time for the ink to dry enough so it doesnt smudge.

>> I just want to put a little bit of text on the CD or DVD, not full artwork etc obviously.

>> Has anyone seen anyone offering ink thats similar to whats in a Sharpie etc ?

>> Better if the ink is meant for an inkjet printer, because most printers that will
> print on CDs and DVDs have a separate print head and since I dont want to
> have to fart around flushing the heads after every print on a CD or DVD...

> From Maxell's web site:

> Question:  What's the best way to Label CD-R Media?
> Answer:  Use a felt-tipped water based pen such as the Maxell Disk
> Writer (CD-P1, Item #190705).

> I suspect that Office Max or Office Depot would have such pens.

I already said I use Sharpies and want to use an inkjet printer instead. 

This isn't the real Rod Speed folks.  The real Speed doesn't ask pitifully 
stupid questions.

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:5vt4d3F1nji42U1@mid.individual.net...
> I want to be able to print to *NON* inkjet printable CDs and DVDs.
>
> You can write on these fine with a Sharpie etc but when you use normal 
> ink,
> it takes a hell of a long time for the ink to dry enough so it doesnt 
> smudge.
>
> I just want to put a little bit of text on the CD or DVD, not full artwork 
> etc obviously.
>
> Has anyone seen anyone offering ink thats similar to whats in a Sharpie 
> etc ?
>
> Better if the ink is meant for an inkjet printer, because most printers 
> that will
> print on CDs and DVDs have a separate print head and since I dont want to
> have to fart around flushing the heads after every print on a CD or DVD...
> 

I'm not sure if any longitudinal tests have been done on the Sharpie 
solvent inks.  The newer Sharpies seems to have a acetic acid smell.

One thing to consider is that CD surfaces are quite different than DVDs.

CDs top surface is usually a thin protective layer of plastic which is 
sprayed on like a lacquer. Some have added a surface designed for 
accepting ink or other printing methods.  Under those surfaces is the 
vaporized or electroplated metal (usually aluminum, sometimes silver, or 
silver and gold, or gold).  Then, on one time writable discs, under 
that, is a surface that is an organic dye, which is made either opaque 
or non-reflective when it is subjected to the writing (burning) laser. 
With RW disks, the chemistry is different still using a material that 
has a reversible reaction to the write laser, so it can be changed to 
opaque/non transmissive or transparent many times over.  Finally, under 
that layer is a very thick layer of polycarbonate plastic, which is the 
underside surface of the CD which the laser writes and reads through.

DVDs are quite different.  The most important aspect is that the 
vulnerable light sensitive data forming layers are sandwiched on both 
sides with a layer of polycarbonate plastic, which is about equal in 
thickness on both surfaces.  You can see this if you hold a DVD on it's 
edge and look closely with a light on the opposite edge.  That design 
makes the data surface quite well protected from either side, and you 
could probably write on the top surface with the majority of inks and 
paints without damaging it, since polycarbonate is a relatively 
non-reactive to most ink solvents within reason.

Art


smh wrote:

> .          --------------------------------------
>               Mike Richter, were you born with
>            "Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
>            --------------------------------------
>                  http://tinyurl.com/38wte6
> 
> (No Mikey S-Lickers have been able to prove ANY of the above )
> (is a LIBEL -- despite Mikey claimed to have PROOF of libels!)
> '
> 
> Mike Richter squeaked:
> 
>><snip>
> 
> 
> Does Sanford know anything now, Mikey?
> 
>     =======================
>     From:    smh
>     Date:    12/8/04
>     Subject: DVD Labels
> 
>     Mike Richter crapped:
>     >
>     > Sanford, maker of the Sharpie, recommends against it for
>     > the purpose, suggesting their pens with water-based ink.
>     >
>     > Of course, what do they know?
> 
>     Of course, you must have just dug that out of your ass,
>     isn't that right, Mikey?
> 
>     (From CD-R FAQ)
>     The official word from Sanford is:
> 
>     "Sanford has used Sharpie Markers on CDs for years and we have
>      never experienced a problem. We do not believe that the Sharpie
>      ink can affect these CDs, however we have not performed any
>      long-term laboratory testing to verify this. We have spoken to
>      many major CD manufacturers about this issue. They use the
>      Sharpie Markers on CDs internally as well, and do not believe
>      that the Sharpie Ink will cause any harm to their products.
> 
>     Sanford Consumer Affairs"
>     =========================

Basically, as I understand it, there are two types of printable CDs/DVDs 
which will work with standard inkjet printers, one with a white surface 
and one with a transparent surface, both specially designed for this 
purpose. Some people have found the clear surface a hassle, as it is 
slow to dry and finicky with some inks, and with getting the right look.

Standard non-printable disks have a synthetic lacquer on them which doe 
snot accept water based or even pigment inks.  It isn't porous, so the 
ink sits on the surface and VERY slowly dries, but will rub off or smear 
if it gets wet.

There are special solvent inkjet printers which use a special 
formulation of ink that "sets" with UV light exposure or with heat. 
This keeps the heads from clogging because the ink will literally not 
harden without UV or heat. I don't think standard inkjet printers will 
tolerate these inks, but maybe someone has experimented and succeeded.

Art

Rod Speed wrote:

> Keith <noname@nowhere.com> wrote
> 
>>Rod Speed wrote
> 
> 
>>>I want to be able to print to *NON* inkjet printable CDs and DVDs.
> 
> 
>>>You can write on these fine with a Sharpie etc but when you use normal ink,
>>>it takes a hell of a long time for the ink to dry enough so it doesnt smudge.
> 
> 
>>>I just want to put a little bit of text on the CD or DVD, not full artwork etc obviously.
> 
> 
>>>Has anyone seen anyone offering ink thats similar to whats in a Sharpie etc ?
> 
> 
>>>Better if the ink is meant for an inkjet printer, because most printers that will
>>
>>print on CDs and DVDs have a separate print head and since I dont want to
>>have to fart around flushing the heads after every print on a CD or DVD...
> 
> 
>>From Maxell's web site:
> 
> 
>>Question:  What's the best way to Label CD-R Media?
>>Answer:  Use a felt-tipped water based pen such as the Maxell Disk
>>Writer (CD-P1, Item #190705).
> 
> 
>>I suspect that Office Max or Office Depot would have such pens.
> 
> 
> I already said I use Sharpies and want to use an inkjet printer instead. 
> 
>