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"Fred" <testing@testing1212mouse.com> wrote in message 
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>I would sure appreciate hearing from someone who had this problem and FIXED
> a similar problem. (Please note -- I have already checked the batteries 
> and
> battery contacts. The problem is with the power circuitry.)
>
> I have a C-700 which is about 18 months old.  My problem isn't
> ordinary battery drain, rather what I suspect to be some kind of short
> circuit.  Newly inserted batteries, alkaline or (brand new, fully
> charged NiMH) re-chargeables only work for a picture or two.  I can
> open the compartment door, rub the contacts a bit, and get maybe one
> more picture, maybe not.
>
> I posted this query about a month ago, and got a suggestion clean the
> contacts, check the springs, etc.   I have done this and the contact 
> points
> are all good & clean.  No change in performance.
>
> Already checked the obvious --  tried several new batteries and all act 
> the
> same, batteries are not in backwards, etc.   The problem is with the 
> camera,
> I know that for sure.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Fred
>

To establish whether the batteries are being drained by an internal fault 
you need to place the batteries in an external battery holder and connect 
them to the camera by a couple of insulated wires with miniature crocdile 
clips on each end.  Place a meter in seies with one of thes wires to measure 
the current drawn from the batteries.  I am guessing, but when the camera is 
off the current should be zero, and in standby probably no more than say 100 
to 200 milliamps (0.1 to 0.2 amp).

Not sure of your skills as a sparkie but this would be my approach.

Hope this helps,

Cheers,
John 

On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 19:36:29 GMT, "Fred"
<testing@testing1212mouse.com> wrote:

>I would sure appreciate hearing from someone who had this problem and FIXED
>a similar problem. (Please note -- I have already checked the batteries and
>battery contacts. The problem is with the power circuitry.)
>
>I have a C-700 which is about 18 months old.  My problem isn't
>ordinary battery drain, rather what I suspect to be some kind of short
>circuit.  Newly inserted batteries, alkaline or (brand new, fully
>charged NiMH) re-chargeables only work for a picture or two.  I can
>open the compartment door, rub the contacts a bit, and get maybe one
>more picture, maybe not.
>
>I posted this query about a month ago, and got a suggestion clean the
>contacts, check the springs, etc.   I have done this and the contact points
>are all good & clean.  No change in performance.
>
>Already checked the obvious --  tried several new batteries and all act the
>same, batteries are not in backwards, etc.   The problem is with the camera,
>I know that for sure.
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
>Fred
>
My experience...
I started with a D-600L. It exhibited the same problems you describe
exactly. Olympus fixed it under warranty.I have a C3030Z. It does the
same thing. It's obviously out of warranty, and it's been replaced (by
a Canon A75, as a second camera, and the one my wife uses).
I bought a C4000Z to replace the 3030, and it failed as above under
warranty; Oly fixed it under warranty. It failed again, Oly *said*
they fixed it, but it did the same thing when I got it back. I gave it
away.
I bought a Digital Rebel, and have been very happy with it.

I believe Oly has a problem with their power systems on the PCB. I've
seen others with the same problems, and threads about this problem
come up here, too.

Bill Funk
Change "g" to "a"

Thanks, the batteries are fine -- they are not being drained.

The camera power circuit is not seeing the batteries.


"John Ewing" <none@needed> wrote in message
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>
> "Fred" <testing@testing1212mouse.com> wrote in message
> news:1J9jd.1037$mL1.174@trnddc08...
> >I would sure appreciate hearing from someone who had this problem and
FIXED
> > a similar problem. (Please note -- I have already checked the batteries
> > and
> > battery contacts. The problem is with the power circuitry.)
> >
> > I have a C-700 which is about 18 months old.  My problem isn't
> > ordinary battery drain, rather what I suspect to be some kind of short
> > circuit.  Newly inserted batteries, alkaline or (brand new, fully
> > charged NiMH) re-chargeables only work for a picture or two.  I can
> > open the compartment door, rub the contacts a bit, and get maybe one
> > more picture, maybe not.
> >
> > I posted this query about a month ago, and got a suggestion clean the
> > contacts, check the springs, etc.   I have done this and the contact
> > points
> > are all good & clean.  No change in performance.
> >
> > Already checked the obvious --  tried several new batteries and all act
> > the
> > same, batteries are not in backwards, etc.   The problem is with the
> > camera,
> > I know that for sure.
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > Fred
> >
>
> To establish whether the batteries are being drained by an internal fault
> you need to place the batteries in an external battery holder and connect
> them to the camera by a couple of insulated wires with miniature crocdile
> clips on each end.  Place a meter in seies with one of thes wires to
measure
> the current drawn from the batteries.  I am guessing, but when the camera
is
> off the current should be zero, and in standby probably no more than say
100
> to 200 milliamps (0.1 to 0.2 amp).
>
> Not sure of your skills as a sparkie but this would be my approach.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Cheers,
> John
>
>

Thanks Bill. Great to know this.

"Big Bill" <bill@pipping.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 19:36:29 GMT, "Fred"
> <testing@testing1212mouse.com> wrote:
>
> >I would sure appreciate hearing from someone who had this problem and
FIXED
> >a similar problem. (Please note -- I have already checked the batteries
and
> >battery contacts. The problem is with the power circuitry.)
> >
> >I have a C-700 which is about 18 months old.  My problem isn't
> >ordinary battery drain, rather what I suspect to be some kind of short
> >circuit.  Newly inserted batteries, alkaline or (brand new, fully
> >charged NiMH) re-chargeables only work for a picture or two.  I can
> >open the compartment door, rub the contacts a bit, and get maybe one
> >more picture, maybe not.
> >
> >I posted this query about a month ago, and got a suggestion clean the
> >contacts, check the springs, etc.   I have done this and the contact
points
> >are all good & clean.  No change in performance.
> >
> >Already checked the obvious --  tried several new batteries and all act
the
> >same, batteries are not in backwards, etc.   The problem is with the
camera,
> >I know that for sure.
> >
> >Thanks in advance!
> >
> >Fred
> >
> My experience...
> I started with a D-600L. It exhibited the same problems you describe
> exactly. Olympus fixed it under warranty.I have a C3030Z. It does the
> same thing. It's obviously out of warranty, and it's been replaced (by
> a Canon A75, as a second camera, and the one my wife uses).
> I bought a C4000Z to replace the 3030, and it failed as above under
> warranty; Oly fixed it under warranty. It failed again, Oly *said*
> they fixed it, but it did the same thing when I got it back. I gave it
> away.
> I bought a Digital Rebel, and have been very happy with it.
>
> I believe Oly has a problem with their power systems on the PCB. I've
> seen others with the same problems, and threads about this problem
> come up here, too.
>
> Bill Funk
> Change "g" to "a"

Thanks, John.  The batteries are not being drained by the camera -- the
camera is not seeing the batteries.  The batteries are fine.  The battery
clips are fine. The batteries AND the battery clips are fine. The problem is
downstream of the batteries. It is not the batteries that is the problem
here.  Not the batteries. No No No.... Battery problem? No.

(Aside:   What is this fixation with "check the batteries"?  How many times
do I have to say, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THE BLASTED BATTERIES?)

"John Ewing" <none@needed> wrote in message
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>
> "Fred" <testing@testing1212mouse.com> wrote in message
> news:1J9jd.1037$mL1.174@trnddc08...
> >I would sure appreciate hearing from someone who had this problem and
FIXED
> > a similar problem. (Please note -- I have already checked the batteries
> > and
> > battery contacts. The problem is with the power circuitry.)
> >
> > I have a C-700 which is about 18 months old.  My problem isn't
> > ordinary battery drain, rather what I suspect to be some kind of short
> > circuit.  Newly inserted batteries, alkaline or (brand new, fully
> > charged NiMH) re-chargeables only work for a picture or two.  I can
> > open the compartment door, rub the contacts a bit, and get maybe one
> > more picture, maybe not.
> >
> > I posted this query about a month ago, and got a suggestion clean the
> > contacts, check the springs, etc.   I have done this and the contact
> > points
> > are all good & clean.  No change in performance.
> >
> > Already checked the obvious --  tried several new batteries and all act
> > the
> > same, batteries are not in backwards, etc.   The problem is with the
> > camera,
> > I know that for sure.
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > Fred
> >
>
> To establish whether the batteries are being drained by an internal fault
> you need to place the batteries in an external battery holder and connect
> them to the camera by a couple of insulated wires with miniature crocdile
> clips on each end.  Place a meter in seies with one of thes wires to
measure
> the current drawn from the batteries.  I am guessing, but when the camera
is
> off the current should be zero, and in standby probably no more than say
100
> to 200 milliamps (0.1 to 0.2 amp).
>
> Not sure of your skills as a sparkie but this would be my approach.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Cheers,
> John
>
>

Perhaps you should switch to decaf.

"Fred" <testing@testing1212mouse.com> wrote in message 
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> Thanks, John.  The batteries are not being drained by the camera -- the
> camera is not seeing the batteries.  The batteries are fine.  The battery
> clips are fine. The batteries AND the battery clips are fine. The problem 
> is
> downstream of the batteries. It is not the batteries that is the problem
> here.  Not the batteries. No No No.... Battery problem? No.
>
> (Aside:   What is this fixation with "check the batteries"?  How many 
> times
> do I have to say, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THE BLASTED BATTERIES?)
>
> "John Ewing" <none@needed> wrote in message
> news:418d7082$0$24942$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>
>> "Fred" <testing@testing1212mouse.com> wrote in message
>> news:1J9jd.1037$mL1.174@trnddc08...
>> >I would sure appreciate hearing from someone who had this problem and
> FIXED
>> > a similar problem. (Please note -- I have already checked the batteries
>> > and
>> > battery contacts. The problem is with the power circuitry.)
>> >
>> > I have a C-700 which is about 18 months old.  My problem isn't
>> > ordinary battery drain, rather what I suspect to be some kind of short
>> > circuit.  Newly inserted batteries, alkaline or (brand new, fully
>> > charged NiMH) re-chargeables only work for a picture or two.  I can
>> > open the compartment door, rub the contacts a bit, and get maybe one
>> > more picture, maybe not.
>> >
>> > I posted this query about a month ago, and got a suggestion clean the
>> > contacts, check the springs, etc.   I have done this and the contact
>> > points
>> > are all good & clean.  No change in performance.
>> >
>> > Already checked the obvious --  tried several new batteries and all act
>> > the
>> > same, batteries are not in backwards, etc.   The problem is with the
>> > camera,
>> > I know that for sure.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance!
>> >
>> > Fred
>> >
>>
>> To establish whether the batteries are being drained by an internal fault
>> you need to place the batteries in an external battery holder and connect
>> them to the camera by a couple of insulated wires with miniature crocdile
>> clips on each end.  Place a meter in seies with one of thes wires to
> measure
>> the current drawn from the batteries.  I am guessing, but when the camera
> is
>> off the current should be zero, and in standby probably no more than say
> 100
>> to 200 milliamps (0.1 to 0.2 amp).
>>
>> Not sure of your skills as a sparkie but this would be my approach.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> Cheers,
>> John
>>
>>
>
> 

LOLLLLLLLLLL!!!

"Doug Robbins" <crobbins6@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Perhaps you should switch to decaf.
>
> "Fred" <testing@testing1212mouse.com> wrote in message
> news:gZEmd.6587$GV5.4445@trnddc04...
> > Thanks, John.  The batteries are not being drained by the camera -- the
> > camera is not seeing the batteries.  The batteries are fine.  The
battery
> > clips are fine. The batteries AND the battery clips are fine. The
problem
> > is
> > downstream of the batteries. It is not the batteries that is the problem
> > here.  Not the batteries. No No No.... Battery problem? No.
> >
> > (Aside:   What is this fixation with "check the batteries"?  How many
> > times
> > do I have to say, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THE BLASTED BATTERIES?)
> >
> > "John Ewing" <none@needed> wrote in message
> > news:418d7082$0$24942$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> >>
> >> "Fred" <testing@testing1212mouse.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1J9jd.1037$mL1.174@trnddc08...
> >> >I would sure appreciate hearing from someone who had this problem and
> > FIXED
> >> > a similar problem. (Please note -- I have already checked the
batteries
> >> > and
> >> > battery contacts. The problem is with the power circuitry.)
> >> >
> >> > I have a C-700 which is about 18 months old.  My problem isn't
> >> > ordinary battery drain, rather what I suspect to be some kind of
short
> >> > circuit.  Newly inserted batteries, alkaline or (brand new, fully
> >> > charged NiMH) re-chargeables only work for a picture or two.  I can
> >> > open the compartment door, rub the contacts a bit, and get maybe one
> >> > more picture, maybe not.
> >> >
> >> > I posted this query about a month ago, and got a suggestion clean the
> >> > contacts, check the springs, etc.   I have done this and the contact
> >> > points
> >> > are all good & clean.  No change in performance.
> >> >
> >> > Already checked the obvious --  tried several new batteries and all
act
> >> > the
> >> > same, batteries are not in backwards, etc.   The problem is with the
> >> > camera,
> >> > I know that for sure.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance!
> >> >
> >> > Fred
> >> >
> >>
> >> To establish whether the batteries are being drained by an internal
fault
> >> you need to place the batteries in an external battery holder and
connect
> >> them to the camera by a couple of insulated wires with miniature
crocdile
> >> clips on each end.  Place a meter in seies with one of thes wires to
> > measure
> >> the current drawn from the batteries.  I am guessing, but when the
camera
> > is
> >> off the current should be zero, and in standby probably no more than
say
> > 100
> >> to 200 milliamps (0.1 to 0.2 amp).
> >>
> >> Not sure of your skills as a sparkie but this would be my approach.
> >>
> >> Hope this helps,
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> John
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

PS -- I do appreciate everyone taking the time to give their advice to help
me solve this problem.  Don't take offense at my wise cracks - they are
intended only in jest...

"Fred" <testing@testing1212mouse.com> wrote in message
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> LOLLLLLLLLLL!!!
>
> "Doug Robbins" <crobbins6@triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:sLGmd.1265$YP3.526810@twister.southeast.rr.com...
> > Perhaps you should switch to decaf.
> >
> > "Fred" <testing@testing1212mouse.com> wrote in message
> > news:gZEmd.6587$GV5.4445@trnddc04...
> > > Thanks, John.  The batteries are not being drained by the camera -- 
the
> > > camera is not seeing the batteries.  The batteries are fine.  The
> battery
> > > clips are fine. The batteries AND the battery clips are fine. The
> problem
> > > is
> > > downstream of the batteries. It is not the batteries that is the
problem
> > > here.  Not the batteries. No No No.... Battery problem? No.
> > >
> > > (Aside:   What is this fixation with "check the batteries"?  How many
> > > times
> > > do I have to say, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THE BLASTED BATTERIES?)
> > >
> > > "John Ewing" <none@needed> wrote in message
> > > news:418d7082$0$24942$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> > >>
> > >> "Fred" <testing@testing1212mouse.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:1J9jd.1037$mL1.174@trnddc08...
> > >> >I would sure appreciate hearing from someone who had this problem
and
> > > FIXED
> > >> > a similar problem. (Please note -- I have already checked the
> batteries
> > >> > and
> > >> > battery contacts. The problem is with the power circuitry.)
> > >> >
> > >> > I have a C-700 which is about 18 months old.  My problem isn't
> > >> > ordinary battery drain, rather what I suspect to be some kind of
> short
> > >> > circuit.  Newly inserted batteries, alkaline or (brand new, fully
> > >> > charged NiMH) re-chargeables only work for a picture or two.  I can
> > >> > open the compartment door, rub the contacts a bit, and get maybe
one
> > >> > more picture, maybe not.
> > >> >
> > >> > I posted this query about a month ago, and got a suggestion clean
the
> > >> > contacts, check the springs, etc.   I have done this and the
contact
> > >> > points
> > >> > are all good & clean.  No change in performance.
> > >> >
> > >> > Already checked the obvious --  tried several new batteries and all
> act
> > >> > the
> > >> > same, batteries are not in backwards, etc.   The problem is with
the
> > >> > camera,
> > >> > I know that for sure.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks in advance!
> > >> >
> > >> > Fred
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> To establish whether the batteries are being drained by an internal
> fault
> > >> you need to place the batteries in an external battery holder and
> connect
> > >> them to the camera by a couple of insulated wires with miniature
> crocdile
> > >> clips on each end.  Place a meter in seies with one of thes wires to
> > > measure
> > >> the current drawn from the batteries.  I am guessing, but when the
> camera
> > > is
> > >> off the current should be zero, and in standby probably no more than
> say
> > > 100
> > >> to 200 milliamps (0.1 to 0.2 amp).
> > >>
> > >> Not sure of your skills as a sparkie but this would be my approach.
> > >>
> > >> Hope this helps,
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> John
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>