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Started by Andy K
Wed, 20 Aug 2003 09:51
Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera
Author: Andy K
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 09:51
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 09:51
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I have read about the Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera and have been impressed by its features. I particularly like the 12x zoom. Has anyone used this camera and can offer comments, either good or bad? TIA Andy
Re: Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera
Author: Paul Bech
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 10:11
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 10:11
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If only it was at least 3 meg! Try the Olympus C740 or better yet the C750 Andy K <woof@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:bhvgcj$250e$1@otis.netspace.net.au... > I have read about the Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera and have been > impressed by its features. > I particularly like the 12x zoom. > Has anyone used this camera and can offer comments, either good or bad? > > TIA > Andy > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.502 / Virus Database: 300 - Release Date: 18/07/03
Re: Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera
Author: Hans-Georg Michna
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 10:44
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 10:44
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"Andy K" <woof@hotmail.com> wrote: >I have read about the Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera and have been >impressed by its features. >I particularly like the 12x zoom. >Has anyone used this camera and can offer comments, either good or bad? Andy, very good for me, please have a look at http://www.michna.com/kenya2003/ for sample photos. Main shortcomings are only 2 Megapixels and poor or no performance (no autofocus - no pictures) in low light. But the performance/price ratio is still unbeatable if you need the long zoom and the image stabilizer. I still like this camera a lot and have not seen anything better for my purposes, particularly not at the price. Hans-Georg -- No mail, please.
Re: Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera
Author: Hans-Georg Michna
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:05
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:05
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"Paul Bech" <morbieus@yahoo.com.au> wrote: >If only it was at least 3 meg! Try the Olympus C740 or better yet the C750 Paul, no image stabilizer. Without that thing, you won't even be able to shoot a sharp 2 Megapixel photo in many circumstances, let alone 3 MP. But if you want to walk around carrying a tripod ... By the way, does the Olympus C750 have a filter screw thread? The FZ1 does (55 mm). Hans-Georg -- No mail, please.
Re: Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera
Author: David J. Littleboy
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 13:22
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 13:22
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"Andy K" <woof@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:bhvgcj$250e$1@otis.netspace.net.au... > I have read about the Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera and have been > impressed by its features. > I particularly like the 12x zoom. > Has anyone used this camera and can offer comments, either good or bad? You're behind the times: there's already an FZ2 out<g>. (It only differs in that it has shutter and aperture priority modes, and fine adjustment of the white balance. Dunno if it's been announced outside Japan.) I didn't like the mechanical feel of the FZ1; it's very light and feels rather plasticy. The tele end of the zoom is _really_ long, and the image jumps all over the place as you try to frame a shot. I don't think image stabilization is enough to make that long a lens hand holdable. My opinion. YMMV. And (assuming the IS works) a lightweight tripod would be all you'd need, I think. But it's definitely an interesting camera. David J. Littleboy Tokyo, Japan
Re: Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera
Author: Hans-Georg Michna
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:50
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:50
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"David J. Littleboy" <davidjl@gol.com> wrote: >And (assuming the IS works) a lightweight tripod would be all you'd >need, I think. David, I can assure you that it works. However, it is not enough to take photos at max zoom from the free hand. You have to lean the camera against something or at least yourself. I always carry a small bean bag with the camera for this purpose. Hans-Georg -- No mail, please.
Re: Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera
Author: David J. Littleboy
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 22:14
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 22:14
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"Hans-Georg Michna" <hans-georgNoEmailPlease@michna.com> wrote in message news:j367kvk3pbeq4q1k87qcp1845oftknjqai@4ax.com... > "David J. Littleboy" <davidjl@gol.com> wrote: > > >And (assuming the IS works) a lightweight tripod would be all you'd > >need, I think. > > David, > > I can assure you that it works. Sorry. My note probably sounded grumpier than it should have. Given the price point and the features, I do agree with people who are enthused with the FZ1 that their enthusiasm is warranted: it's looks to be a seriously fun camera. 2MP sounds pretty small, but it should be enough for quite nice 5x7s, at least my Olympus 2020 was. > However, it is not enough to > take photos at max zoom from the free hand. You have to lean the > camera against something or at least yourself. > > I always carry a small bean bag with the camera for this > purpose. Sounds sensible to me. David J. Littleboy Tokyo, Japan
Re: Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera
Author: Steven Whatley
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 04:50
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 04:50
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In rec.photo.digital Andy K <woof@hotmail.com> wrote: > I have read about the Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera and have been > impressed by its features. > I particularly like the 12x zoom. > Has anyone used this camera and can offer comments, either good or bad? I am very happy with my FZ1 but I have only had it for a couple of weeks. The image stabilizer helps me a lot and the IS feature is the main reason that I got the FZ1. Yes, I wish it was more than 2mp but that is good emough to get 1600x1200 background pics since I use that resolution as my windows desktop. I also have a Casio EX-Z3 as my carry anywhere camera. Since it is 3mp, the Z3 will be my main wide shot camera. I have also bought a monopod for those times that I'll need a more steady shot. Later, Steven
Re: Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera
Author: Michael Kilpatrick
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 11:35
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 11:35
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Amazing camera for the price. It takes practice to get consistently sharp shots at the long end of the zoom range, the shots almost always need colour balancing later and the flash is awful but...... it will take hand held shots that no other camera in the same price range can take. 2 Mpixels is enough to print to A4 size, which is ample for most people. These 4 were all taken hand held, 3 at the long zoom position, the one in the pub at the wide angle end, 1/8 sec exposure. They have been resized to 800x600 but the files are still a bit big. http://members.optusnet.com.au/mkilpatrick/index.htm Michael
Re: Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera
Author: flakes
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 12:22
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 12:22
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I love this camera, it's soooo much fun! We're going to Cape Cod next month and I'll be trying it out on a whale watch cruise, hoping to get some really nice shots using burst mode. Here's a small album of pics I took the first few days I had the camera (all photos taken handheld, no tripod): http://www.joannesplace.com/albums/fz1/index.html "Andy K" <woof@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:bhvgcj$250e$1@otis.netspace.net.au... > I have read about the Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera and have been > impressed by its features. > I particularly like the 12x zoom. > Has anyone used this camera and can offer comments, either good or bad? > > TIA > Andy > >
Re: Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera
Author: Tesselator
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 19:59
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 19:59
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"Hans-Georg Michna" <hans-georgNoEmailPlease@michna.com> wrote in message news:s9l6kvs6bulk14ph2n8k61g7lnp5etv46f@4ax.com...
> "Paul Bech" <morbieus@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> >If only it was at least 3 meg! Try the Olympus C740 or better yet the C750
>
> Paul,
>
> no image stabilizer. Without that thing, you won't even be able
> to shoot a sharp 2 Megapixel photo in many circumstances, let
> alone 3 MP.
>
> But if you want to walk around carrying a tripod ...
>
> By the way, does the Olympus C750 have a filter screw thread?
> The FZ1 does (55 mm).
Yes the C750 can accept filters. I know of very few
digital cameras worth having that can't take filters
in one way or another.
:-P
Re: Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera
Author: Tesselator
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 20:01
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 20:01
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"Andy K" <woof@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:bhvgcj$250e$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
> I have read about the Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera and have been
> impressed by its features.
> I particularly like the 12x zoom.
> Has anyone used this camera and can offer comments, either good or bad?
>
Read this that I have pasted from another message for you here:
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Try to stay away from the Japanese and Korean Electronic "junk"
manufacturers if at all possible and go with a maker that has
produced a line of 35mm SLR cameras in the past. The reasons
for this are GENERAL QUALITY and SUPPORT. (Notice how one begats
the other.)
1) Companies like Nikon, Olympus, Canon, Minolta, Lecia,
Contax, Pentax, Fuji, (Kodak?, Polaroid?) offer products
of excellent to good quality manufactur and staff an
excellent to good support team with customer friendly
policies.
2) Companies like Sony, Samsung, Panasonic, Casio, Toshiba,
Fujitsu, Epson, Kyocera, Ricoh, and Sharp, usually
offer products engineered to fail rapidly (ie. fair
to poor quality) and thier support teams /almost/ always
follow a policy set up under the theme: The Company
Must Always Profit -- Customer Satisfaction comes second!
This is not really just opinion as I got to work with alot
companies from both groups inside various sections as an
independant contractor not all that long ago. IMO, the only
reason you would buy a digital (snap) camera from group 2)
is if you were a Japanese Nationalist _and_ didn't care that
much about quality or product life cycles. This defines
the majority of Japanese citizens btw.
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Re: Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera
Author: Dragan Cvetkovic
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 20:49
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 20:49
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"Tesselator" <jimmmboe@hotmail.com> writes: > Read this that I have pasted from another message for you here: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Try to stay away from the Japanese and Korean Electronic "junk" > manufacturers if at all possible and go with a maker that has > produced a line of 35mm SLR cameras in the past. The reasons > for this are GENERAL QUALITY and SUPPORT. (Notice how one begats > the other.) > > 1) Companies like Nikon, Olympus, Canon, Minolta, Lecia, what is Lecia? > Contax, Pentax, Fuji, (Kodak?, Polaroid?) offer products > of excellent to good quality manufactur and staff an > excellent to good support team with customer friendly > policies. > > > 2) Companies like Sony, Samsung, Panasonic, Casio, Toshiba, > Fujitsu, Epson, Kyocera, Ricoh, and Sharp, usually > offer products engineered to fail rapidly (ie. fair > to poor quality) and thier support teams /almost/ always > follow a policy set up under the theme: The Company LOL. Contax is made by Kyocera. Ricoh was making 35mm SLR cameras in the past. Do I need to say more? Bye, Dragan -- Dragan Cvetkovic, To be or not to be is true. G. Boole No it isn't. L. E. J. Brouwer !!! Sender/From address is bogus. Use reply-to one !!!
Re: Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera
Author: Tesselator
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 21:55
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 21:55
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You seriously want to offer an opinion on camera manufacturers without even knowing who Leica is? Really.... ( :-O FYI, Kyocera and Contax while incorporated maintain _completely_ different lines of manufacture. You're right about Ricoh but again thier SLR equipment is a completely different production network than anything digital bearing thier name. So at least you should know what you're talking about before you say things like: "Do I need to say more?". Maybe you should say less?! Or not... you might know something worth posting. This ain't it though. "Dragan Cvetkovic" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:lm65kp5sem.fsf@privacy.net... > "Tesselator" <jimmmboe@hotmail.com> writes: > > > Read this that I have pasted from another message for you here: > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Try to stay away from the Japanese and Korean Electronic "junk" > > manufacturers if at all possible and go with a maker that has > > produced a line of 35mm SLR cameras in the past. The reasons > > for this are GENERAL QUALITY and SUPPORT. (Notice how one begats > > the other.) > > > > 1) Companies like Nikon, Olympus, Canon, Minolta, Lecia, > > what is Lecia? > > > Contax, Pentax, Fuji, (Kodak?, Polaroid?) offer products > > of excellent to good quality manufactur and staff an > > excellent to good support team with customer friendly > > policies. > > > > > > 2) Companies like Sony, Samsung, Panasonic, Casio, Toshiba, > > Fujitsu, Epson, Kyocera, Ricoh, and Sharp, usually > > offer products engineered to fail rapidly (ie. fair > > to poor quality) and thier support teams /almost/ always > > follow a policy set up under the theme: The Company > > LOL. Contax is made by Kyocera. Ricoh was making 35mm SLR cameras in the > past. Do I need to say more? > > Bye, Dragan > > > -- > Dragan Cvetkovic,
Re: Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera
Author: Hans-Georg Michna
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 06:05
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 06:05
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"Tesselator" <jimmmboe@hotmail.com> wrote: >Yes the C750 can accept filters. I know of very few >digital cameras worth having that can't take filters >in one way or another. Hehe, I know of none. :-) Need that polarizing filter. Hans-Georg -- No mail, please.
Re: Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera
Author: Hans-Georg Michna
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 06:05
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 06:05
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"Tesselator" <jimmmboe@hotmail.com> wrote: > 2) Companies like Sony, Samsung, Panasonic, Casio, Toshiba, > Fujitsu, Epson, Kyocera, Ricoh, and Sharp, usually > offer products engineered to fail rapidly (ie. fair > to poor quality) and thier support teams /almost/ always > follow a policy set up under the theme: The Company > Must Always Profit -- Customer Satisfaction comes second! That's a general problem these days. I never thought I would buy a product from Panasonic, for this reason. But then the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ1 costs about a third of comparable cameras and is still better because of its long zoom and image stabilizer, so I had no choice. And so far it is holding out rather well, travelled with me through gruesome conditions in east Africa, being subjected to the shaking, jolting jeep, to heat, dust and my relentless use, and it's still working. (See http://www.michna.com/kenya2003/ for some photos.) If it keeps working for one or two more years it has already earned its living, because then I'll buy a new one anyway. Hans-Georg -- No mail, please.
Re: Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera
Author: Tesselator
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 08:33
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 08:33
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> (See http://www.michna.com/kenya2003/ for some photos.) Wow!!!! Awesome site content dude! My Mom lives in Transval (Near Sugunda) and that make me wanna go and visit... Killer-Diller!
Re: Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera
Author: Tesselator
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 08:39
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 08:39
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"Hans-Georg Michna" <hans-georgNoEmailPlease@michna.com> wrote in message news:sg0ekv4e23h97tpahff2ic548gs6934pep@4ax.com...
> "Tesselator" <jimmmboe@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Yes the C750 can accept filters. I know of very few
> >digital cameras worth having that can't take filters
> >in one way or another.
>
> Hehe, I know of none. :-)
>
> Need that polarizing filter.
>
> Hans-Georg
Yup... by hook or by crook...
Even in some cases by paper-tape (thin masking-tape)
tho usually in most cases an adaptor or mounting
bracket will do fine.
O :-)
Re: Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera
Author: Hans-Georg Michna
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 09:04
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 09:04
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"Tesselator" <jimmmboe@hotmail.com> wrote: >> (See http://www.michna.com/kenya2003/ for some photos.) >Wow!!!! Awesome site content dude! > >My Mom lives in Transval (Near Sugunda) and that make me wanna >go and visit... Killer-Diller! Don't tell me you have somebody in Africa you could visit and haven't done it! :-) Could be the experience of a lifetime. Hans-Georg -- No mail, please.
Re: Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera
Author: Dragan Cvetkovic
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 00:34
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 00:34
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"Tesselator" <jimmmboe@hotmail.com> writes: > "Dragan Cvetkovic" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:lm65kp5sem.fsf@privacy.net... > > "Tesselator" <jimmmboe@hotmail.com> writes: > > > > > 1) Companies like Nikon, Olympus, Canon, Minolta, Lecia, > > > > what is Lecia? > > > You seriously want to offer an opinion on camera manufacturers > without even knowing who Leica is? Really.... ( :-O > Hey, I know who Leica is. I don't know who Lecia is. Bye, Dragan -- Dragan Cvetkovic, To be or not to be is true. G. Boole No it isn't. L. E. J. Brouwer !!! Sender/From address is bogus. Use reply-to one !!!
Re: Panasonic Lumix DMC - FZ1camera
Author: Tesselator
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 03:48
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 03:48
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"Dragan Cvetkovic" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:lmwud2y3qu.fsf@privacy.net...
> "Tesselator" <jimmmboe@hotmail.com> writes:
> > "Dragan Cvetkovic" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:lm65kp5sem.fsf@privacy.net...
> > > "Tesselator" <jimmmboe@hotmail.com> writes:
> > >
> > > > 1) Companies like Nikon, Olympus, Canon, Minolta, Lecia,
> > >
> > > what is Lecia?
> > >
>
> > You seriously want to offer an opinion on camera manufacturers
> > without even knowing who Leica is? Really.... ( :-O
> >
>
> Hey, I know who Leica is. I don't know who Lecia is.
>
> Bye, Dragan
Oh, you're a spelling dragon... err, dragan...
O :-)
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