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Article #23Re: Why (NOT) Win2k for gaming ?
From: YeungLui
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 04:10
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 04:10
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I've played around with Cyrix, and man, you are a lucky guy. You should thanks God, for not having you chossed to play with one of those. man it was a total Nitemare, more like hell. the comparison, is what you will Experience with a Cable or ADSL vs a 56k modem Cable = Intel (fast and easy to use, but not very stable, and you have to worry about your next door neighbour hacking into your HDD) ADSL = AMD (fast and stable, and fun to use 'cuz is worry free, you don;t need to be affraid of people hacking into your network) 56k = Cyrix (claims to be as fast as the rest, but it doesn't deliver, because of the FCC regulations, max to 53k, Yeah Rite!, if you are lucky you might get 48k) RMS wrote: > Hi Mark: > > Obviously we differ greatly regarding the hardware we like, but I do like > your well thoughtout responses. > > The funny thing is, everybody gets different perspectives depending on what > they experience. I have an Athlon 800 on an Asus K7M that is solid as a > rock. I have a PIII 550 on an Asus P3V4X that is solid, but balks at some > games. The PII and PIII's at work are a pain in the ass. (I wish I had 1200 > AMD machines to monitor for a long period too see if the failure rate is > equivelant.) > > I'll admit I picky, I have dozens of games, and I expect them all to run > good (A lot of tweaking some times.). It could just as well be the fact that > I have an ATI Rage Fury with the PIII and a Diamond V770U with the Athlon > that makes the difference. > > Either way, I do buy Intel or AMD, whichever I think is the best performer, > most stable, and greatest bang for the buck at the time (I've even had a > Cyrix!). > > bye, Rick > > "Mark Borton" <MarkBorton@DEEPSPACENINE.COM> wrote in message > news:974137281.8432.0.nnrp-13.c1ed3851@news.demon.co.uk... > >> "RMS" <rsavoie1@Kiss.my.grits.spammer.home.com> wrote in message >> news:oyTP5.37386$4U6.1886082@news1.rdc2.on.home.com... >> >>> Thanks for your opinion. Since I think you are totally wrong about >> >> virtually >> >>> everything, I'll let everybody know how it really works (IMNSHO). >>> >>> I have 3 systems, Athlon 800Mhz, PIII 550Mhz, and a K6-2 400Mhz (Enough >> > of > >>> that.). I have been actually working in computer maintenance/network >> > admin > >>> at a site that has 1200 clients for several years now (No MSCE, ABCD, >> > or > >>> anything else like that.). >>> >>> Facts: >>> 1) Dual processor systems are for systems that run multiple applications >> >> at >> >>> the same time, anything else is a waste of CPU processing power. (The >>> exception of course is high end servers with OS's that have real >> >> symetrical >> >>> processing, at the kernel level, like Solaris or IBM AIX. >>> 2) Win NT is a joke of an OS compared to any Unix OS (Just ask a real >>> administrator.) unless your main goal is to have everything automated >> > and > >>> "who cares about performance". >>> 3) Win NT is a joke of an OS compared to Win 98 for playing games (This >> >> may >> >>> be changing with Directx 8.0). >>> 4) Hayes modem - Not, >>> Netgear NIC - Not, >>> Intel PIII CPU - Not, >> >> Hmm, let me see, what would i rather have, a motherboard with 2 PIII intel >> chips, stablilty and the use of A geforce 2 ultra with no agro, or a >> slightly faster chip with all the hassle of shitty no support motherboards >> and incompatibilities with the Geforce chipsset >> >> >>> Creative DVD - Not ! >> >> Creative make the best in PC hardware decoders ive ever seen, no loss of >> picture quality from interference, crisp, clear quality, and the Optical > > DTS > >> 5.1 output is a must >> >> >>> 5) USR modem - Yes, >> >> WHy? i didtched my USR for the Hayes, i get higher connection rates, less >> packet loss and far better all-round performance >> >> >>> 3Com NIC - Yes, >> >> Nope, Ill stick with netgear (Coz i get it free, Hubs and all) >> >> >>> AMD Athlon CPU, - Yes >> >> Instablilty and low support from Motherboard manufactuers, YES >> >> >>> Pioneer DVD - Yes ! >> >> Thats what i have, I SAID CREATIVE DVD DECODER...(REGION FREE, TV OUTPU, > > DTS > >> 5.1 Optical OUTPUT) >> >> >>> Maybe if you had purchased the right hardware instead of taking what >> > came > >> in >> >>> the pre-assembled "box", you would have been able to run Win98. Maybe if >> >> you >> >>> hadn't wasted your cash on the 2 Intel PIII 550's, you could have had a >>> totally stable Athlon 900Mhz for the same price. I understand that you >>> wasted your bucks on that SMP because you wanted to be the coolest guy >>> around, and now you have to use NT so it won't appear that your wasting >> >> your >> >>> SMP money, but just live with it. Just out of curiostity, how long did >> > you > >>> have the dual PIII system before you were told by a friend that Win98 >> > does > >>> not do SMP? >>> >>> Last note: If the best you can achieve is "crash less", you slouldn't be >>> throwing your opinions around. >>> >>> So long to another Wintel clone, Rick >> >> >> >> >> I Built all my systems myself, and I built the Dual system specifiacally > > for > >> NT4.0...win2k just let me move from playing games on the single cpu system >> to using a far suppirior SMP system >> >> Quake 3 Arena, on my Dual PIII timedemos 1 at a higher result than my > > freind > >> Atahlon @800....and he has had a shitty time getting the geforce 2 to run >> stabaly under win9x >> >> SMP rules, INTEL though not the fastest by the long way, are far better > > than > >> AMD in the long run..until I can get a stable AMD supported motherboard > > (Or > >> find a Socket 370 AMD chip that i can get into a Slocket and fit to my >> Gigabyte 6BXD I wont even be looking at another processor > > manufacturor..... > >> i have never had 1 crash (Except the Adaptec, where have my CDs gone now >> bug) under win2k >> >> >
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