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Re: OT:ATT ALL Nvidia Geforce 88xx Owners! Please test your cards for buzzing/sqealing with linked tools. Faulty cards/PSU's may...

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From: Ceri Thomas
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:48
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 Well to be honest I've installed them on roughly 10% of the machines I 
build. They all are loaded with Vista Ultimate and powered with an Enermax 
or Antec power supplies only with Gigabyte motherboards and I have yet to 
hear any such noise to date, or have a client call about it. These machines 
are usually in the $3000.00 mark and people do call over something or really 
anything out of the ordinary that happens. I would just have to say they are 
tricky cards as they are truly very power picky and smart about power 
monitoring. I have seen lots of posts but the world is filled with strange 
people doing odd things.
   Just because you get a famous brand name with 500watt on the side doesn't 
dictate the voltage will have a correct sign wave. The chief reason I use 
Antec or Enermax is because they only make power supplies and the best you 
can get at any price hands down for decades now. If your card is unstable or 
not operating well change the power supply and then change the motherboard. 
It will go. Most people don't know this but the motherboards must be able to 
handle clean power wave signs to, but most never say. People usually get a 
great  video card and high power famous brand (usually a memory company 
builder not a power supply builder) and get fancy memory which really has 
fairly little effect in reality. Then find themselves cheapening out on a 
motherboard, like using the 50/50 crap shoot Asus ones or laughable MSI and 
wonder why they have issues. As these cards, CPUs, memory and other 
components speed up ever faster the power demand is higher and cleaner much 
cleaner due to physics having thinner wires running hotter with each 
generation, if not some will simply burn out causing all sorts of havoc as 
we've all heard the horror stories. Look at were we are at now.  1/2 to 1kw 
power supplies, up a long way from 350watts, yet the speed of the singular 
function being done before my finger leaves the key hasn't changed since my 
five year old machine that I use in my office. The power and speed is 
pointless on 99% of all applications even in this day and age. The lesson 
is... if you want to use high quality graphic cards EVERYTHING ELSE must be 
of high quality not simply high price or a catchy brand name. Corsair or OZ 
that make quality memory not power supplies, put one under an oscilloscope 
and see. Getting a 700.00 video card to only plug into a 130.00 motherboard 
really is just looking for trouble, just like a Ferrari using a Nissan 
engine and P7 tires with a 3 speed automatic, looks cool but won't sound or 
function well at all, unlike the real Ferrari. The 8800 series card is 
pointless really as less then 24 aplications (mostly games) able take any 
kind of noticable benifit. My 14 year old son has one in his, with no 
strange sounds oddly enough and runs games at high frame rates, but the 7950 
GX2 in my workstation does them to at rates higher than the human eye can 
detect. I've told him it's the last card as they are close to the end as 
5GHz area that cause metal in widths of nanometers destintgrates this is why 
they are using dual core and quad core to impress with not much success over 
the higher speed singular cores. A 600watt to 1kw computer running at home 
is insane in the hydro bill to say the least.
"johns" <johns321@moscow.com> wrote in message 
news:1190400660.019862.14930@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>I build about that myself, plus service 1200 users.
> Those 8800s have problems more than just
> power requirements. Sounds to me like they
> need "faster" local on-card power ... something
> like a whopping big electrolytic right by the
> ICs on the card. And that won't work. I'm also
> seeing driver problems with the one I tested.
> Called nVidia, and they said they spent too
> much time developing Vista drivers for that
> card ... and need to go back and work on the
> XP drivers. I'm seeing that the 7950 GT OC
> is the top XP card. An 8800 can't touch one
> for speed and stability.
>
> johns
> 
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