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Re: Wah!! I dont get it!!

#490
From: SilverBack
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 04:15
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No you don't get it
It's not testing anything, as a Cel 300 can get the same score as  P3 800 at
640x480.
This is a cap, plain and simple. It has nothing to do with processing speed
fillrate , or color depth. It might be fun to watch but you aren't seeing a
valid bench.
John Twernbold <jtwernbold@remove-this.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> SilverBack wrote:
> > You just don't get it do you?
> > If I get 42 fps at 1600x1200 and 50 at 640x480
> > then the benchmark is null and void because at 640x480 the ceiling is
> > capped!
>
> No, SilverBack, *you* just don't get it. The Phobia demo is a valid
> benchmark. Remember, we're not testing one aspect of the
hardware/software;
> rather, we're testing all of them. CPU, video card, drivers, game engine,
> etc. Every benchmark has a different purpose, which is why as consumers we
> need to focus on those benchmarks which apply to us personally. Frankly, I
> don't care how my computer performs as a server, because it doesn't
function
> as one! Likewise, I don't pay any attention to benchmarks consisting of
> tasks which I don't do, like using a database. But I do care about my
> computer's performance in UT. Hence, I use the Phobia demo. Logical, eh?
>
> The results you listed are perfectly normal, and at 640x480 indicate
> limitations of the game engine, drivers, and even the CPU.
> "<Gasp>, limited with my expensive new Athlon 750?!"
> Yes. Welcome to the real world. :-)
>
> And about your initial comment: you simply reveal your ignorance when you
> say:
> > It's also well known that the UT benchmarks are bogus.
>
> If you mean, "UT benchmarks cannot be used to test just one component", or
> "UT benchmarks only tell about peformance in UT", then yes, you're
correct.
> And that's true of *any* benchmark.
>
> In fact, as an educator, I can tell you that's true of most standardized
> tests, too! One's score on the ACT only tells us how good that student was
> at taking the ACT. And only his/her ACT test-taking ability on that one
day.
> We can still draw conclusions based on such scores, as long as we remember
> the limitations of such a test.
>
> Bold
>
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