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Why not get a V3 3000 or something like that..? They are cheap and they are
easy to get.

"Ben Miles" <benmiles@cableinet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> 12MB, must live in UK, looking for quick sale. I need it for a friends PC,
> which as it is only a K6 300, may as well just get a V2. Please mail me on
> benmiles@cableinet.co.uk
>
> cheers
>
> Ben
>
> PS I have rating on ebay and ebay if you want it.
>
>

Because it is wasted on a K6 300 with a monitor only capable of 800x600.
Also, i am not prepared to pay �60 (the minimum price for a new V3 3000). He
has NO AGP slot also
Ben George <ben@73welly.freeserve.com.removethis> wrote in message
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> Why not get a V3 3000 or something like that..? They are cheap and they
are
> easy to get.
>
> "Ben Miles" <benmiles@cableinet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:OzUe6.2854$9g3.369033@news3.cableinet.net...
> > 12MB, must live in UK, looking for quick sale. I need it for a friends
PC,
> > which as it is only a K6 300, may as well just get a V2. Please mail me
on
> > benmiles@cableinet.co.uk
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > Ben
> >
> > PS I have rating on ebay and ebay if you want it.
> >
> >
>
>

PCI VERSION.

And a Voodoo 2 will be useless, it is crap. You might as well spend the few
extra ��� on a half decent Video Card.

"Ben Miles" <benmiles@cableinet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Because it is wasted on a K6 300 with a monitor only capable of 800x600.
> Also, i am not prepared to pay �60 (the minimum price for a new V3 3000).
He
> has NO AGP slot also
> Ben George <ben@73welly.freeserve.com.removethis> wrote in message
> news:95h4qh$dn$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > Why not get a V3 3000 or something like that..? They are cheap and they
> are
> > easy to get.
> >
> > "Ben Miles" <benmiles@cableinet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:OzUe6.2854$9g3.369033@news3.cableinet.net...
> > > 12MB, must live in UK, looking for quick sale. I need it for a friends
> PC,
> > > which as it is only a K6 300, may as well just get a V2. Please mail
me
> on
> > > benmiles@cableinet.co.uk
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > > Ben
> > >
> > > PS I have rating on ebay and ebay if you want it.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

"Ben George" <ben@73welly.freeserve.com.removethis> wrote in message
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>a Voodoo 2 will be useless, it is crap.

Spoken by someone who never owned one.....
otherwise you'd know better.

Never owned what? A Voodoo 2? I had one of them, infact I had two of them in
SLI mode...

"Paul H" <pheywood@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ben George" <ben@73welly.freeserve.com.removethis> wrote in message
> news:95h57m$l4d$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
> >a Voodoo 2 will be useless, it is crap.
>
> Spoken by someone who never owned one.....
> otherwise you'd know better.
>
>

"Ben George" <ben@73welly.freeserve.com.removethis> wrote in message
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> Never owned what? A Voodoo 2? I had one of them, infact I had two of them
in
> SLI mode...
 Then either you're f*cked up, or your cards were... The V2 (and V1) are the
only good to ever come from 3dfx.. and they were *really* good.. still are
actually, I still use my V2 alongside my Geforce DDR

/Simon

...actually I still got SLI 8M V2s in my computer next to my
TNT2 ultra AGP video card. I haven't had enuff nerve of
pulling those babies out yet... call me sentimental 
or whatever. 3dfx sure has brought me a heapful of happy
memories. 8-)))

Paul H wrote:
> 
> "Ben George" <ben@73welly.freeserve.com.removethis> wrote in message
> news:95h57m$l4d$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
> >a Voodoo 2 will be useless, it is crap.
> 
> Spoken by someone who never owned one.....
> otherwise you'd know better.

Why do you have a V2 and a GeForce DDR? You can't get the effects of both.
If you want to use Glide, then get a Glide wrapper for your GeForce.

"Simon Blom" <famblom@algonet.se> wrote in message
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>
> "Ben George" <ben@73welly.freeserve.com.removethis> wrote in message
> news:95h7qe$9f1$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > Never owned what? A Voodoo 2? I had one of them, infact I had two of
them
> in
> > SLI mode...
>  Then either you're f*cked up, or your cards were... The V2 (and V1) are
the
> only good to ever come from 3dfx.. and they were *really* good.. still are
> actually, I still use my V2 alongside my Geforce DDR
>
> /Simon
>
>

Same here. I am swapping a TNT2 for a Radeon 332 DDR this week, but for
16-bit gaming and Glide optimization, something I still use a lot in driving
sims, etc, a pair of V2s in SLI mode still rule.

"ZsaZsa" <zsazsa@gabor.com> wrote in message
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> ...actually I still got SLI 8M V2s in my computer next to my
> TNT2 ultra AGP video card. I haven't had enuff nerve of
> pulling those babies out yet... call me sentimental
> or whatever. 3dfx sure has brought me a heapful of happy
> memories. 8-)))
>
> Paul H wrote:
> >
> > "Ben George" <ben@73welly.freeserve.com.removethis> wrote in message
> > news:95h57m$l4d$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > >a Voodoo 2 will be useless, it is crap.
> >
> > Spoken by someone who never owned one.....
> > otherwise you'd know better.

And now we know how stupid you are, no glide wrapper works as well as a V2,
even when on a GF2 Ultra. Do you honestly think there will be a defference
between a V2 and a V3 at 640x480 - 800x600? Not when coupled with a K6-300.
As i said, i am not willing to pay �60, Now fuck off and leave this thread
to people who have a brain.
Ben George <ben@73welly.freeserve.com.removethis> wrote in message
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> Why do you have a V2 and a GeForce DDR? You can't get the effects of both.
> If you want to use Glide, then get a Glide wrapper for your GeForce.
>
> "Simon Blom" <famblom@algonet.se> wrote in message
> news:95h88t$p0g$1@zingo.tninet.se...
> >
> > "Ben George" <ben@73welly.freeserve.com.removethis> wrote in message
> > news:95h7qe$9f1$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > > Never owned what? A Voodoo 2? I had one of them, infact I had two of
> them
> > in
> > > SLI mode...
> >  Then either you're f*cked up, or your cards were... The V2 (and V1) are
> the
> > only good to ever come from 3dfx.. and they were *really* good.. still
are
> > actually, I still use my V2 alongside my Geforce DDR
> >
> > /Simon
> >
> >
>
>

"Ben Miles" <benmiles@cableinet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4oWe6.3087$9g3.409892@news3.cableinet.net...
> And now we know how stupid you are, no glide wrapper works as well as a
V2,
> even when on a GF2 Ultra. Do you honestly think there will be a defference
> between a V2 and a V3 at 640x480 - 800x600? Not when coupled with a
K6-300.
> As i said, i am not willing to pay �60, Now fuck off and leave this thread
> to people who have a brain.

Your wonderful ebay rating might possibly mean very little now to anybody
reading this thread.

Arrivederci

* Rialto

I actually want a Voodoo2 myself to work alongside my MX.  I still have some
old games that work only (and best) with Glide.  It might be old but like
everyone here, I do agree that they're the best thing to ever come out of
3dfx.  Let's face it Glide wrappers don't work as well as Glide itself.
It's what it is, a wrapper that adds another layer of code when processing
games, which could eventually lead to slower performance on some machines.
Ben Miles <benmiles@cableinet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:OzUe6.2854$9g3.369033@news3.cableinet.net...
> 12MB, must live in UK, looking for quick sale. I need it for a friends PC,
> which as it is only a K6 300, may as well just get a V2. Please mail me on
> benmiles@cableinet.co.uk
>
> cheers
>
> Ben
>
> PS I have rating on ebay and ebay if you want it.
>
>

On Sat, 03 Feb 2001 14:27:58 GMT, "Ben Miles" <benmiles@cableinet.co.uk>
wrote:

>12MB, must live in UK, looking for quick sale. I need it for a friends PC,
>which as it is only a K6 300, may as well just get a V2. Please mail me on
>benmiles@cableinet.co.uk
>
>cheers
>
>Ben
>
>PS I have rating on ebay and ebay if you want it.
>
Get,"Computer Mart"from your news agents,out every thursday.Always a few
for sale in there.I got offered 2 12 meg boxed with a brand new S3 AGP
base card thrown in for �50 but then got the same deal local :O)

On Sat, 03 Feb 2001 16:18:52 GMT, "Skid" <skid2@mediaone.net> wrote:

>Same here. I am swapping a TNT2 for a Radeon 332 DDR this week, but for
>16-bit gaming and Glide optimization, something I still use a lot in driving
>sims, etc, a pair of V2s in SLI mode still rule.
Same here and the age of a game as nothing to do with it's playability.I
still get loads of enjoyment out of my 2 VooDoo 2s as I do out of my MX
card and some glide games still rock and look good to me.I also Still
play GLQW online and would never be without the V2s for this as open GL
is ok but Glide still looks better for this game IMHO.so much so that I
keep a spare CL 12 meg just in case one of my main ones goes down and
NO!.You can't have it Ben<grin>.
PS
On this Tbird I get 140 fps in timedemo 1 in QW and can hit over 300
online in timerefresh with my suped up config |-)
PPS
Why chuck away a good card/s if you have a free slot and it can do an
API you may want to use that the newer card can't?

Yup; I still use my V2's (SLI) alongside my GTS.  NEVER get any
stuttering in CS on my good old V2's.  That's far more than I can say
for my GTS...why does my FPS sometimes drop to the teens from my cap
(85?).  Seems like a precache bug to me.

And my V2's *STILL* own my GTS in Wheel of Time and Unreal at 640x480.

On Sat, 3 Feb 2001 16:31:07 +0100, "Simon Blom" <famblom@algonet.se>
enlightened us by scribbling this gem of wisdom:

>
>"Ben George" <ben@73welly.freeserve.com.removethis> wrote in message
>news:95h7qe$9f1$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> Never owned what? A Voodoo 2? I had one of them, infact I had two of them
>in
>> SLI mode...
> Then either you're f*cked up, or your cards were... The V2 (and V1) are the
>only good to ever come from 3dfx.. and they were *really* good.. still are
>actually, I still use my V2 alongside my Geforce DDR
>
>/Simon
>

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(formerly Antos Dragon)

Once again, coming from someone who DOESN"T even USE a Geforce
combined with V2's, so how would you know?

Can a Geforce play Whiplash in DOS, accelerated?   Can a Geforce play
Descent 2 accelerated?  Can a Geforce Control-F9 to desktop and allow
you to restore windows if Glide hangs?  Didn't think so.  

On Sat, 3 Feb 2001 16:17:04 -0000, "Ben George"
<ben@73welly.freeserve.com.removethis> enlightened us by scribbling
this gem of wisdom:

>Why do you have a V2 and a GeForce DDR? You can't get the effects of both.
>If you want to use Glide, then get a Glide wrapper for your GeForce.
>
>"Simon Blom" <famblom@algonet.se> wrote in message
>news:95h88t$p0g$1@zingo.tninet.se...
>>
>> "Ben George" <ben@73welly.freeserve.com.removethis> wrote in message
>> news:95h7qe$9f1$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> > Never owned what? A Voodoo 2? I had one of them, infact I had two of
>them
>> in
>> > SLI mode...
>>  Then either you're f*cked up, or your cards were... The V2 (and V1) are
>the
>> only good to ever come from 3dfx.. and they were *really* good.. still are
>> actually, I still use my V2 alongside my Geforce DDR
>>
>> /Simon
>>
>>
>

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Hahaha.....

Although I do have to correct you..there will be a pretty big
difference between a single V2 and a V3 at 800x600, but not between
SLI'd cards.

On Sat, 03 Feb 2001 16:32:00 GMT, "Ben Miles"
<benmiles@cableinet.co.uk> enlightened us by scribbling this gem of
wisdom:

>And now we know how stupid you are, no glide wrapper works as well as a V2,
>even when on a GF2 Ultra. Do you honestly think there will be a defference
>between a V2 and a V3 at 640x480 - 800x600? Not when coupled with a K6-300.
>As i said, i am not willing to pay �60, Now fuck off and leave this thread
>to people who have a brain.
>Ben George <ben@73welly.freeserve.com.removethis> wrote in message
>news:95hb05$eph$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> Why do you have a V2 and a GeForce DDR? You can't get the effects of both.
>> If you want to use Glide, then get a Glide wrapper for your GeForce.
>>
>> "Simon Blom" <famblom@algonet.se> wrote in message
>> news:95h88t$p0g$1@zingo.tninet.se...
>> >
>> > "Ben George" <ben@73welly.freeserve.com.removethis> wrote in message
>> > news:95h7qe$9f1$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> > > Never owned what? A Voodoo 2? I had one of them, infact I had two of
>> them
>> > in
>> > > SLI mode...
>> >  Then either you're f*cked up, or your cards were... The V2 (and V1) are
>> the
>> > only good to ever come from 3dfx.. and they were *really* good.. still
>are
>> > actually, I still use my V2 alongside my Geforce DDR
>> >
>> > /Simon
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>

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The V3 would have been AWESOME if it had kept to the 3dfx tradition of
doubling the power of what was already possible...e.g., V1 to V2=100%
increase, V2-V2 SLI = almost 100% (if your CPU was powerful enough)..
if the V3 had come out with a 667 mpixel/sec fillrate (double that of
V2 SLI), it would have OWNED, and people wouldnt have been bitching at
the lack of 32 bit color, because fillrate would have been king.  And
then V5...with a GTSU's fillrate (released on time)....oh man....

On Sat, 3 Feb 2001 12:18:55 -0600, "Gill" <umtolen0@cc.umanitoba.ca>
enlightened us by scribbling this gem of wisdom:

>I actually want a Voodoo2 myself to work alongside my MX.  I still have some
>old games that work only (and best) with Glide.  It might be old but like
>everyone here, I do agree that they're the best thing to ever come out of
>3dfx.  Let's face it Glide wrappers don't work as well as Glide itself.
>It's what it is, a wrapper that adds another layer of code when processing
>games, which could eventually lead to slower performance on some machines.
>Ben Miles <benmiles@cableinet.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:OzUe6.2854$9g3.369033@news3.cableinet.net...
>> 12MB, must live in UK, looking for quick sale. I need it for a friends PC,
>> which as it is only a K6 300, may as well just get a V2. Please mail me on
>> benmiles@cableinet.co.uk
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Ben
>>
>> PS I have rating on ebay and ebay if you want it.
>>
>>
>

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No, thanks for your responce guys, but i was able to aquire one for 24.99
brand new with games from www.msquared.co.uk



Cheers

Ben
Colin <colin@furnkliedurnklie.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> still need one?
>
> --
>
>
>
>
> Colin "-evey- Eve
> ICQ:938778
>
>
>
> "Ben Miles" <benmiles@cableinet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:OzUe6.2854$9g3.369033@news3.cableinet.net...
> > 12MB, must live in UK, looking for quick sale. I need it for a friends
PC,
> > which as it is only a K6 300, may as well just get a V2. Please mail me
on
> > benmiles@cableinet.co.uk
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > Ben
> >
> > PS I have rating on ebay and ebay if you want it.
> >
> >
>
>

God, what an idiot. Using a Voodoo2 with any of the high end cards of
today is like having a little kid with a slingshot ride on top of a
tank. Last time I made this argument someone made the same point about
old glide games but there's no way you're gonna tell me that a V2 will
run a game faster that a gf2 ultra with a glide wrapper. I've used glide
wrappers in the past (for UltraHLE on my girlfriends ati xpert128) and
it didnt run much slower on an ati xpert128 so you cant tell me it wont
be perfect on a gf2 ultra.

In article <4oWe6.3087$9g3.409892@news3.cableinet.net>,
  "Ben Miles" <benmiles@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
> And now we know how stupid you are, no glide wrapper works as well as
a V2,
> even when on a GF2 Ultra. Do you honestly think there will be a
defference
> between a V2 and a V3 at 640x480 - 800x600? Not when coupled with a
K6-300.
> As i said, i am not willing to pay �60, Now fuck off and leave this
thread
> to people who have a brain.
> Ben George <ben@73welly.freeserve.com.removethis> wrote in message
> news:95hb05$eph$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > Why do you have a V2 and a GeForce DDR? You can't get the effects of
both.
> > If you want to use Glide, then get a Glide wrapper for your GeForce.
> >
> > "Simon Blom" <famblom@algonet.se> wrote in message
> > news:95h88t$p0g$1@zingo.tninet.se...
> > >
> > > "Ben George" <ben@73welly.freeserve.com.removethis> wrote in
message
> > > news:95h7qe$9f1$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > > > Never owned what? A Voodoo 2? I had one of them, infact I had
two of
> > them
> > > in
> > > > SLI mode...
> > >  Then either you're f*cked up, or your cards were... The V2 (and
V1) are
> > the
> > > only good to ever come from 3dfx.. and they were *really* good..
still
> are
> > > actually, I still use my V2 alongside my Geforce DDR
> > >
> > > /Simon
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


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Let me tell you something right now.

My Voodoo2 SLI runs Wheel of Time at 640x480 in Glide, FASTER than my
Geforce2-GTS does in Direct 3D.  Even if I kick the GTS resolution
down to 320x240, THE V2's are STILL faster.  Got a clue yet?  Glide
rules.  The V2's would even be faster than an Ultra at 640x480 in
Glide games.  And with a GLIDE WRAPPER? cough.. cough.....

On Mon, 05 Feb 2001 07:53:13 GMT, Sam <sonofrage@my-deja.com>
enlightened us by scribbling this gem of wisdom:

>God, what an idiot. Using a Voodoo2 with any of the high end cards of
>today is like having a little kid with a slingshot ride on top of a
>tank. Last time I made this argument someone made the same point about
>old glide games but there's no way you're gonna tell me that a V2 will
>run a game faster that a gf2 ultra with a glide wrapper. I've used glide
>wrappers in the past (for UltraHLE on my girlfriends ati xpert128) and
>it didnt run much slower on an ati xpert128 so you cant tell me it wont
>be perfect on a gf2 ultra.
>
>In article <4oWe6.3087$9g3.409892@news3.cableinet.net>,
>  "Ben Miles" <benmiles@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
>> And now we know how stupid you are, no glide wrapper works as well as
>a V2,
>> even when on a GF2 Ultra. Do you honestly think there will be a
>defference
>> between a V2 and a V3 at 640x480 - 800x600? Not when coupled with a
>K6-300.
>> As i said, i am not willing to pay �60, Now fuck off and leave this
>thread
>> to people who have a brain.
>> Ben George <ben@73welly.freeserve.com.removethis> wrote in message
>> news:95hb05$eph$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> > Why do you have a V2 and a GeForce DDR? You can't get the effects of
>both.
>> > If you want to use Glide, then get a Glide wrapper for your GeForce.
>> >
>> > "Simon Blom" <famblom@algonet.se> wrote in message
>> > news:95h88t$p0g$1@zingo.tninet.se...
>> > >
>> > > "Ben George" <ben@73welly.freeserve.com.removethis> wrote in
>message
>> > > news:95h7qe$9f1$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> > > > Never owned what? A Voodoo 2? I had one of them, infact I had
>two of
>> > them
>> > > in
>> > > > SLI mode...
>> > >  Then either you're f*cked up, or your cards were... The V2 (and
>V1) are
>> > the
>> > > only good to ever come from 3dfx.. and they were *really* good..
>still
>> are
>> > > actually, I still use my V2 alongside my Geforce DDR
>> > >
>> > > /Simon
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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Oh ya, and I forgot to say...Lets see YOU Get Whiplash 3D accelerated
working with ANY Nvidia card with a glide wrapper ,in DOS mode.
Didn't think so.   Descent 2-3dfx?  Don't think so either.  The lists
go on and on.  If a V2 required tweaking to get old Voodoo graphics
games working on it, what makes you think a Glide wrapper would work?
(reality check)

On Mon, 05 Feb 2001 07:53:13 GMT, Sam <sonofrage@my-deja.com>
enlightened us by scribbling this gem of wisdom:

>God, what an idiot. Using a Voodoo2 with any of the high end cards of
>today is like having a little kid with a slingshot ride on top of a
>tank. Last time I made this argument someone made the same point about
>old glide games but there's no way you're gonna tell me that a V2 will
>run a game faster that a gf2 ultra with a glide wrapper. I've used glide
>wrappers in the past (for UltraHLE on my girlfriends ati xpert128) and
>it didnt run much slower on an ati xpert128 so you cant tell me it wont
>be perfect on a gf2 ultra.
>

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You are calling me an idiot, and yet you have not tried a wrapper on a GF2U.
Please dont comment on things about which you know nothing. Also, although
many glide wrappers work with UltraHLE, there are many more games that will
not start unless a proper 3dfx card is detected. Anyway we are loosing sight
of the topic in question.

Sam <sonofrage@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:95lm58$783$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
> God, what an idiot. Using a Voodoo2 with any of the high end cards of
> today is like having a little kid with a slingshot ride on top of a
> tank. Last time I made this argument someone made the same point about
> old glide games but there's no way you're gonna tell me that a V2 will
> run a game faster that a gf2 ultra with a glide wrapper. I've used glide
> wrappers in the past (for UltraHLE on my girlfriends ati xpert128) and
> it didnt run much slower on an ati xpert128 so you cant tell me it wont
> be perfect on a gf2 ultra.
>
> In article <4oWe6.3087$9g3.409892@news3.cableinet.net>,
>   "Ben Miles" <benmiles@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
> > And now we know how stupid you are, no glide wrapper works as well as
> a V2,
> > even when on a GF2 Ultra. Do you honestly think there will be a
> defference
> > between a V2 and a V3 at 640x480 - 800x600? Not when coupled with a
> K6-300.
> > As i said, i am not willing to pay �60, Now fuck off and leave this
> thread
> > to people who have a brain.
> > Ben George <ben@73welly.freeserve.com.removethis> wrote in message
> > news:95hb05$eph$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > > Why do you have a V2 and a GeForce DDR? You can't get the effects of
> both.
> > > If you want to use Glide, then get a Glide wrapper for your GeForce.
> > >
> > > "Simon Blom" <famblom@algonet.se> wrote in message
> > > news:95h88t$p0g$1@zingo.tninet.se...
> > > >
> > > > "Ben George" <ben@73welly.freeserve.com.removethis> wrote in
> message
> > > > news:95h7qe$9f1$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > > > > Never owned what? A Voodoo 2? I had one of them, infact I had
> two of
> > > them
> > > > in
> > > > > SLI mode...
> > > >  Then either you're f*cked up, or your cards were... The V2 (and
> V1) are
> > > the
> > > > only good to ever come from 3dfx.. and they were *really* good..
> still
> > are
> > > > actually, I still use my V2 alongside my Geforce DDR
> > > >
> > > > /Simon
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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> http://www.deja.com/

On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Falkentyne wrote:

> Oh ya, and I forgot to say...Lets see YOU Get Whiplash 3D accelerated
> working with ANY Nvidia card with a glide wrapper ,in DOS mode.
> Didn't think so.   Descent 2-3dfx?  Don't think so either.  The lists
> go on and on.  If a V2 required tweaking to get old Voodoo graphics
> games working on it, what makes you think a Glide wrapper would work?
> (reality check)

not to mention screamer rally STILL the best arecade rally game out but it
is dos glide :o( & shit in software.

ohhh for a patch :o(

> 
> On Mon, 05 Feb 2001 07:53:13 GMT, Sam <sonofrage@my-deja.com>
> enlightened us by scribbling this gem of wisdom:
> 
> >God, what an idiot. Using a Voodoo2 with any of the high end cards of
> >today is like having a little kid with a slingshot ride on top of a
> >tank. Last time I made this argument someone made the same point about
> >old glide games but there's no way you're gonna tell me that a V2 will
> >run a game faster that a gf2 ultra with a glide wrapper. I've used glide
> >wrappers in the past (for UltraHLE on my girlfriends ati xpert128) and
> >it didnt run much slower on an ati xpert128 so you cant tell me it wont
> >be perfect on a gf2 ultra.
> >
> 
> remove the "NOSPAM" in my email address to email me via
> usenet reply...
> 
> Falkentyne Dragon
>   -==(UDIC)==-
> 
> (formerly Antos Dragon)
> 

"Ben Miles" <benmiles@cableinet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:uylf6.8097$9g3.997324@news3.cableinet.net...
> No, thanks for your responce guys, but i was able to aquire one for 24.99
> brand new with games from www.msquared.co.uk

Jesus Christ they are a cheap company.  Ty for the link.

Regards

* Rialto

>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ben
> Colin <colin@furnkliedurnklie.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:95jo5j$she$1@taliesin.netcom.net.uk...
> > still need one?
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Colin "-evey- Eve
> > ICQ:938778
> >
> >
> >
> > "Ben Miles" <benmiles@cableinet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:OzUe6.2854$9g3.369033@news3.cableinet.net...
> > > 12MB, must live in UK, looking for quick sale. I need it for a friends
> PC,
> > > which as it is only a K6 300, may as well just get a V2. Please mail
me
> on
> > > benmiles@cableinet.co.uk
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > > Ben
> > >
> > > PS I have rating on ebay and ebay if you want it.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

On Sun, 04 Feb 2001 23:26:18 GMT, "Ben Miles" <benmiles@cableinet.co.uk>
wrote:

>No, thanks for your responce guys, but i was able to aquire one for 24.99
>brand new with games from www.msquared.co.uk
>
Nice one Ben.I don't see the point in limiting my system by not having
access to my Favourite Glide games just like I wouldn't be without my MX
card for Open GL :O)

Since yeterday I've been looking on www.loot.com for a 2nd hand voodoo 2
card so the link is useful to me.
Can anyone help though. I'm a newbie to 3dfx cards. I realize they work off
an exiting card but does it matter what card ? ie what about an standard S3
virge 4mb card. Is this ok ?
What do they need your existing card anyway ? What's the cheapest card I can
get awaqy with and does it matter ?

Are voodoo 2 cards OpenGL compatable ?

Thanks for any answers...

"Shep�<:)" <shep@gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3f1u7t4logufhu8rshem44635rsjojcglc@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 04 Feb 2001 23:26:18 GMT, "Ben Miles" <benmiles@cableinet.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >No, thanks for your responce guys, but i was able to aquire one for 24.99
> >brand new with games from www.msquared.co.uk
> >
> Nice one Ben.I don't see the point in limiting my system by not having
> access to my Favourite Glide games just like I wouldn't be without my MX
> card for Open GL :O)
>

On Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:55:24 -0000, "Dave" <djh@surf-zone.co.uk> wrote:

>Since yeterday I've been looking on www.loot.com for a 2nd hand voodoo 2
>card so the link is useful to me.
>Can anyone help though. I'm a newbie to 3dfx cards. I realize they work off
>an exiting card but does it matter what card ? ie what about an standard S3
>virge 4mb card. Is this ok ?
>What do they need your existing card anyway ?
VooDoo 2 cards are 3d only so you need a base PCI/AGP card for your
windows GUI(Grpaphical User Interface) to work
> What's the cheapest card I can
>get awaqy with and does it matter ?
Yes and noish.I used to run my old VooDoo 2 with a 2 meg S3 PCI and also
on another system an AGP 8 meg S3 card as the VooDoo 2 takes care of the
3d and the 2d card is only needed for things like the game's
interface/window's GUI so it doesn't have to be too great but note:many
modern games will run bad or have to run on the lowest graphics settings
in the game on the card/s as they are old technology now.

>
>Are voodoo 2 cards OpenGL compatable ?
VooDoo 2 cards only do 3dFX glide and D3D.They don't do open GL.

>Thanks for any answers...
>
>"Shep�<:)" <shep@gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:3f1u7t4logufhu8rshem44635rsjojcglc@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 04 Feb 2001 23:26:18 GMT, "Ben Miles" <benmiles@cableinet.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >No, thanks for your responce guys, but i was able to aquire one for 24.99
>> >brand new with games from www.msquared.co.uk
>> >
>> Nice one Ben.I don't see the point in limiting my system by not having
>> access to my Favourite Glide games just like I wouldn't be without my MX
>> card for Open GL :O)
>>
>

Yes any 2D card is fine
Dave <djh@surf-zone.co.uk> wrote in message
news:95n400$i4l2k$1@ID-17549.news.dfncis.de...
> Since yeterday I've been looking on www.loot.com for a 2nd hand voodoo 2
> card so the link is useful to me.
> Can anyone help though. I'm a newbie to 3dfx cards. I realize they work
off
> an exiting card but does it matter what card ? ie what about an standard
S3
> virge 4mb card. Is this ok ?
> What do they need your existing card anyway ? What's the cheapest card I
can
> get awaqy with and does it matter ?
>
> Are voodoo 2 cards OpenGL compatable ?
>
> Thanks for any answers...
>
> "Shep�<:)" <shep@gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3f1u7t4logufhu8rshem44635rsjojcglc@4ax.com...
> > On Sun, 04 Feb 2001 23:26:18 GMT, "Ben Miles" <benmiles@cableinet.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >No, thanks for your responce guys, but i was able to aquire one for
24.99
> > >brand new with games from www.msquared.co.uk
> > >
> > Nice one Ben.I don't see the point in limiting my system by not having
> > access to my Favourite Glide games just like I wouldn't be without my MX
> > card for Open GL :O)
> >
>
>

If you can only run a game at 640x480, through it out, glide or not!

--
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"Falkentyne" <kylearan@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:fqus7t8mru8vb6hvghm4a0crc95igo2066@4ax.com...
> Let me tell you something right now.
>
> My Voodoo2 SLI runs Wheel of Time at 640x480 in Glide, FASTER than my
> Geforce2-GTS does in Direct 3D.  Even if I kick the GTS resolution
> down to 320x240, THE V2's are STILL faster.  Got a clue yet?  Glide
> rules.  The V2's would even be faster than an Ultra at 640x480 in
> Glide games.  And with a GLIDE WRAPPER? cough.. cough.....
>
> On Mon, 05 Feb 2001 07:53:13 GMT, Sam <sonofrage@my-deja.com>
> enlightened us by scribbling this gem of wisdom:
>
> >God, what an idiot. Using a Voodoo2 with any of the high end cards of
> >today is like having a little kid with a slingshot ride on top of a
> >tank. Last time I made this argument someone made the same point about
> >old glide games but there's no way you're gonna tell me that a V2 will
> >run a game faster that a gf2 ultra with a glide wrapper. I've used glide
> >wrappers in the past (for UltraHLE on my girlfriends ati xpert128) and
> >it didnt run much slower on an ati xpert128 so you cant tell me it wont
> >be perfect on a gf2 ultra.
> >
> >In article <4oWe6.3087$9g3.409892@news3.cableinet.net>,
> >  "Ben Miles" <benmiles@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
> >> And now we know how stupid you are, no glide wrapper works as well as
> >a V2,
> >> even when on a GF2 Ultra. Do you honestly think there will be a
> >defference
> >> between a V2 and a V3 at 640x480 - 800x600? Not when coupled with a
> >K6-300.
> >> As i said, i am not willing to pay �60, Now fuck off and leave this
> >thread
> >> to people who have a brain.
> >> Ben George <ben@73welly.freeserve.com.removethis> wrote in message
> >> news:95hb05$eph$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> >> > Why do you have a V2 and a GeForce DDR? You can't get the effects of
> >both.
> >> > If you want to use Glide, then get a Glide wrapper for your GeForce.
> >> >
> >> > "Simon Blom" <famblom@algonet.se> wrote in message
> >> > news:95h88t$p0g$1@zingo.tninet.se...
> >> > >
> >> > > "Ben George" <ben@73welly.freeserve.com.removethis> wrote in
> >message
> >> > > news:95h7qe$9f1$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk...
> >> > > > Never owned what? A Voodoo 2? I had one of them, infact I had
> >two of
> >> > them
> >> > > in
> >> > > > SLI mode...
> >> > >  Then either you're f*cked up, or your cards were... The V2 (and
> >V1) are
> >> > the
> >> > > only good to ever come from 3dfx.. and they were *really* good..
> >still
> >> are
> >> > > actually, I still use my V2 alongside my Geforce DDR
> >> > >
> >> > > /Simon
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >Sent via Deja.com
> >http://www.deja.com/
>
> remove the "NOSPAM" in my email address to email me via
> usenet reply...
>
> Falkentyne Dragon
>   -==(UDIC)==-
>
> (formerly Antos Dragon)

I don't know how many dollars are in a pound but here's a diamond monster II
12MB for $59.00
http://www.gogocity.com/searchresults.asp?mscssid=RBVQW7SRX3SR2JEP00JP42PFCC
37345A
I got one from them, kinda slow shipping, 15% restocking, but it got here
anyway.

"Ben Miles" <benmiles@cableinet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:uylf6.8097$9g3.997324@news3.cableinet.net...
> No, thanks for your responce guys, but i was able to aquire one for 24.99
> brand new with games from www.msquared.co.uk
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ben
> Colin <colin@furnkliedurnklie.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:95jo5j$she$1@taliesin.netcom.net.uk...
> > still need one?
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Colin "-evey- Eve
> > ICQ:938778
> >
> >
> >
> > "Ben Miles" <benmiles@cableinet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:OzUe6.2854$9g3.369033@news3.cableinet.net...
> > > 12MB, must live in UK, looking for quick sale. I need it for a friends
> PC,
> > > which as it is only a K6 300, may as well just get a V2. Please mail
me
> on
> > > benmiles@cableinet.co.uk
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > > Ben
> > >
> > > PS I have rating on ebay and ebay if you want it.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Spoken like a true idiot.  Resolution doesn't make the game.  Reminds me of
all those FMV games they had when CD-Roms first hit the market.  Thought
everyone would buy some crappy game just because it was all
pretty...DiabloII is 640x480...hmmm, they shouldn't have sold any of
those....

-FaNaTiC-

"RMS" <rsavoie1@Kiss.my.grits.spammer.home.com> wrote in message
news:N1Hf6.87808$V22.17254413@news4.rdc1.on.home.com...
> If you can only run a game at 640x480, through it out, glide or not!
>

You just had to call names instead of just disagreeing, grow up.

An audiophile does not say, "mono is good enough", an artist does not say "paint
by numbers is good enough", and someone who enjoys the graphics of a game, just
as much as playing, does not say "640x480x16bit is good enough". If that were
the case then everybody would still be playing Duke Nukem 3D.

If you don't care about the quality of the graphics and only want the game to be
smooth and stable, then get a Nintendo. Anybody who uses a computer for games
and does not care about this should be using a Nintendo for piece of mind, and
not wasting their money.

--
bye, Rick
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"-FaNaTiC-" <fanatic99@msn.com> wrote in message
news:O26tVfTkAHA.176@cpmsnbbsa09...
> Spoken like a true idiot.  Resolution doesn't make the game.  Reminds me of
> all those FMV games they had when CD-Roms first hit the market.  Thought
> everyone would buy some crappy game just because it was all
> pretty...DiabloII is 640x480...hmmm, they shouldn't have sold any of
> those....
>
> -FaNaTiC-
>
> "RMS" <rsavoie1@Kiss.my.grits.spammer.home.com> wrote in message
> news:N1Hf6.87808$V22.17254413@news4.rdc1.on.home.com...
> > If you can only run a game at 640x480, through it out, glide or not!
> >
>
>
>

All your other questions have been fully answered so I'm only addressing the
one about OpenGL support:
Yes, they do support it, but not fully.  The only 3dfx card with full
support for OpenGL (ie, that could be used in any OpenGL-based program such
as 3d modelling programs) is a Voodoo 4/5 series card.  The others only
support a small number of OpenGL features, typically only those exploited by
the Quake engine availiable at the time of their release.
"Dave" <djh@surf-zone.co.uk> wrote in message
news:95n400$i4l2k$1@ID-17549.news.dfncis.de...
> Since yeterday I've been looking on www.loot.com for a 2nd hand voodoo 2
> card so the link is useful to me.
> Can anyone help though. I'm a newbie to 3dfx cards. I realize they work
off
> an exiting card but does it matter what card ? ie what about an standard
S3
> virge 4mb card. Is this ok ?
> What do they need your existing card anyway ? What's the cheapest card I
can
> get awaqy with and does it matter ?
>
> Are voodoo 2 cards OpenGL compatable ?
>
> Thanks for any answers...
>
> "Shep�<:)" <shep@gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3f1u7t4logufhu8rshem44635rsjojcglc@4ax.com...
> > On Sun, 04 Feb 2001 23:26:18 GMT, "Ben Miles" <benmiles@cableinet.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >No, thanks for your responce guys, but i was able to aquire one for
24.99
> > >brand new with games from www.msquared.co.uk
> > >
> > Nice one Ben.I don't see the point in limiting my system by not having
> > access to my Favourite Glide games just like I wouldn't be without my MX
> > card for Open GL :O)
> >
>
>

Uh......Quake 3?  Perhaps you meant Unreal Tournament? ~__~

On Wed, 07 Feb 2001 05:00:05 GMT, glenzabr@xmission.com (GMAN)
enlightened us by scribbling this gem of wisdom:


>
>Thats really funny when a pair of voodoo 2's SLI'd still kicks the shit out of 
>both ati and geforce chipsets in Unreal and Quake 3 
>

remove the "NOSPAM" in my email address to email me via
usenet reply...

Falkentyne Dragon
  -==(UDIC)==-

(formerly Antos Dragon)