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Re: Application Chauvinism

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From: Tim Cutts (Zoology)
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 1995 00:00
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In article <3sef18$q74@glacial.tmr.com> davidsen@tmr.com (bill davidsen) writes:
>In article <3s90rc$obs@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>,
>Tim Cutts (Zoology) <tjrc1@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>| Well, it seems that a good OS that's written in C does seem to take
>| this sort of memory.  Consider the equivalent for Linux:
>| Linux+XFree86 requires 8Mb to be at all useable.  Yes it works in 4,
>| but it's painful.  As soon as you run a sizeable client 16Mb is more
>| practical.  I don't think Linux has featuritis, although many would
>| say that X is an absolute monstrosity.
>
>Linux in 12M has 11061k free, without using swap. And you can run X,
>netscape, and the NCSA content server in that space, and STILL not use
>any swap.

I find that claim a bit hard to believe.  Your kernel must have almost
nothing in it!  By time you add SCSI (tape, cd-rom, disk), sound,
ethernet card, networking protocols, filesystems (ext2, msdos, hpfs, nfs,
and iso9660 in my case) plus 600k for bash as soon as it's in memory,
plus all the daemons (are you actually running any?) you'll be lucky
to get any performance at all out of less than 4Mb.

Tim.
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From: tjrc1@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk (Tim Cutts (Zoology))
Subject: Re: Application Chauvinism
Date: 1995/06/23
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