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Article #152Re: Application Chauvinism by Major FTP site
From: Mario Klebsch DG1AM
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 00:00
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 00:00
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peter@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (Peter da Silva) writes: >In article <3s1f7t$fjd@inferno.mpx.com.au>, >His fucked up decisions have cost the computer industry billions, and have >shipped billions more overseas to buy the RAM needed to run his bloated >software. That's where he's got his money, from selling out you and me. Yes, his decisions cost lots of money. But it always were the dicisions to do things the easy way and not the right way. The decision to stay with 8086 memory addressing lead to the memory problems with DOS. This is, why there still is a A20 Gate on the newest and hottest pentium boards. And please remember, windows was the first OS, that was able to really handle more RAM than 640 KBytes. So, I find it quiet natural, that shortly after supporting more RAM, there is a demand for more RAM. MAC users had much more memory tham PC users, long before windows. The reason simply is the fact, that their OS supported more memory. The decision NOT to put in a graphic device driver lead to the maximum RAM at 640 KByte, and not at e.g. 900 KByte. It made every program to include its own graphic drivers and lead to thousands of unhappy computer users, not having the right driver for their graphic card and their software. These driver problems were the reason, that the monitor industry invented their multisync monitors. The graphic cards swiched between differend emulations almost every time, when starting a program. I never saw this on a Macintosh or a Sun Sparstation. They run the same "video mode" from power on till power down. >There's absolutely nothing in NT to justify the memory requirements. The copy >I installed last week listed a 32M *minimum*. And damn, it's a frustrating >system to work with... that hourglass gets real boring real fast. Don't blame them for fixing some bad design decisions. Including the graphic, mouse and the printer driver into windows was a good thing. Introducing a new memory addressing scheme also is usefull. There also has been a large demand for a standardisation of the user interface. This also is a good decision. Add OLE, multitasking, audio support, ... But they did lots of mistakes, when switching to windows. Now, with windows NT, they started working on these mistakes. A 32 Bit address space was introduced, a new process modell, and access restrictions were added. The lack of these features was one of the strongest arguments against windows. These features made UNIX so robust, and their lack is the reason, that every PC user knows about CTRL-ALT-DEL and the reset button. So, don't blame them, for enhancing their OS. Well, one again, it seems, the result is not perfect. But UNIX had over 20 years to achieve its robustness and functionality. And it still has no build in GUI. Don't count X, it can't be compared to Windows of the Mac OS. It works totally different, and the disadvantages are clearly visable. I know, there are lots of advantages too, but they can't cover the disadvantages, and the UNIX folks really have to work on it. Take a look at the apple Macintosh community. There were drastic changes in the Macintosh OS. Every programmer was forced to work on his programs, almost on every major system update. Sure, the old programs continued to work, but the demand for the new features was so strong, no one could refuse to integrate these new features into his programs. P.S. I don't wand to defend Microsoft, but I think, the things they do to their OS should have been done already years ago. I think, the problems of modern PC's have their roots in decisions, made over 8 years ago. When they would have introduced a new memory model, when the 80286 computers were available, there would be no 640 KByte problem. When they had included drivers for the graphic boards and the printers, when realizing, there is a huge market for different graphic boards, there would be no driver problems. And these decisions would have been made years before 80% of todays PC users had first contact with this stuff. So they had no compatibility problems,.. But with the way, things went, every PC user has to deal with these problems, even today. And it was the fear of users, not being able to use their computer the way, they were used to do, that lead to these decisions. 73, Mario -- Mario Klebsch, DG1AM, M.Klebsch@tu-bs.de +49 531 / 391 - 7457 Institut fuer Robotik und Prozessinformatik der TU Braunschweig Hamburger Strasse 267, 38114 Braunschweig, Germany
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10f6aa,8c87df0270b8463b X-Google-Attributes: gid10f6aa,public X-Google-Thread: f7a5e,8c87df0270b8463b X-Google-Attributes: gidf7a5e,public X-Google-Thread: 10afa1,8c87df0270b8463b X-Google-Attributes: gid10afa1,public X-Google-Thread: 108c83,8c87df0270b8463b X-Google-Attributes: gid108c83,public X-Google-Thread: fd6ed,8c87df0270b8463b X-Google-Attributes: gidfd6ed,public X-Google-Thread: 1117c9,8c87df0270b8463b X-Google-Attributes: gid1117c9,public X-Google-Thread: 102bfa,8c87df0270b8463b X-Google-Attributes: gid102bfa,public X-Google-Thread: f71eb,8c87df0270b8463b X-Google-Attributes: gidf71eb,public From: mkl@rob.cs.tu-bs.de (Mario Klebsch DG1AM) Subject: Re: Application Chauvinism by Major FTP site Date: 1995/06/19 Message-ID: <mkl.803572041@duesentrieb> X-Deja-AN: 104787274 distribution: world references: <3rs4uh$gs3@ob1.uws.EDU.AU> <3rvtnu$5b3@news1.halcyon.com> <3s0i5a$jvn@qns2.qns.com> <3s1f7t$fjd@inferno.mpx.com.au> <3s1dck$rpm@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> organization: TU Braunschweig, Informatik (Bueltenweg), Germany newsgroups: alt.comp.shareware,alt.msdos.programmer,comp.os.msdos.misc,alt.sources,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.os.msdos.programmer.turbovision,alt.fan.bill-gates,aus.computers,aus.computers.ibm-pc,alt.sources,aus.sources,comp.sys.ibm.pc