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Re: PC Mag Tax Software Review

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From: pissed off
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 20:44
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"Criswell The Psychic Weatherman" <ssenate@mindless.com> wrote in message
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> I wasn't the one who said that.

You're correct. You didn't call me "immature." You defined my complaint as
symptomatic of "repressed anger."



> If there were only 5 or 10, then there would be a need to get the word
out.  You
> make a lot of wrong assumptions about me, and what I believe.  You must
think
> that there are only 5 or 10 people who read the Wall Street Journal and PC
> Magazine.

No, that's not what I think at all. You have taken my statement completely
out of context in such a way as to try and discredit it. What's more, your
means of discrediting my statement is, as with Jim Turner, the other Intuit
shill here, was to personally attack me.



> If you read my post, I already stated that I agree with you on the
betrayal and
> mistrust.  Since I agree with you, but you still think I don't agree with
you,
> I'm a shill.

You say you agree, but then contrive excuses for Intuit's behavior. You say
that complaining is of no use. You say that complaining is a sign of
"repressed anger." You are shilling for Intuit, just like the guy who called
me "immature" for complaining.



> Not so.  Their website now includes a C-Dilla removal tool.
Unfortunately, that
> also makes the software not work, which defeats the whole purpose.

Which means that Intuit has *not* responded.


> Wild unsubstantiated overgeneralizations don't help your case.

There is nothing at all unsunstantiated about what I wrote. Yahoo agreed to
censor its search engine in response to Chinese government requests, and
Microsoft and Cisco are among the American corporations that have agree to
sell China's government the means to monitor individual Internet usage and
block access to web sites the government doesn't want its people to see.

Intuit fits right in. The U.S. high-tech establishment couldn't care less
about human rights abroad. How long will it be until they transfer to tools
of repression to the home front? Not long at all.



> If you feel that way, so be it.  I prefer to make my voice heard where it
will
> be heard, than to make it heard where it will have no impact.

And, as any good shill would do, you also prefer to define a vigorous critic
as suffering from a psychiatric problem, i.e., "misplaced anger." Funny,
they did that in the Soviet Union during the Cold War and they're doing it
in China today.



> OK.  Tell me the new tax laws about form 8582 and rental real estate.
Tell me
> about the most recent changes to sale of home rules.  Now, the
de-engineering of
> C-Dilla must take place rapidly for this tax season, or slowly between
April and
> next December.  Would you pay twice as much for TurboTax this year?

No, I won't pay twice as much. I expect Intuit to do both of these things:
De-engineer C-Dilla *and* answer your rental real estate questions. If their
resources are stretched, they can redeploy engineers from other projects.
This is *their problem.*



> Because the
> required rapid de-engineering to get the product on the shelf, and to
remove all
> of the current C-Dilla boxes would likely double the cost.  If you're
willing to
> wait for that, and pay double the cost, then everyone can tell who is the
real
> Intuit shill.  I have found that when someone accuses someone of being a
shill,
> it is often a smoke-and-mirrors cover-up to disguise their own shilling.

No, I would expect Intuit to eat the cost and suffer a decline in its
profitability. Or do corporations never pay for their mistakes? In your
corporate shill mentality, apparently only individuals are required to
accept personal responsibility for their mistakes, while corporations are
entitled to pass along the costs to the customers with whom they are at war.

I think it's time Intuit re-learned the proper positioning of the horse in
relationship to the cart. You, too.



> Again, C-Dilla is not spyware.  You leep insisting that it is.  Spyware
reports
> information back to its host site without your knowledge and approval.
C-Dilla
> only reports your verification code.  Yes, it runs in the background and
usees
> resources, but this is not the defintion of spyware.
>
> Now you're starting to get more rational, but it doesn't answer my
question.
> You don't know.  We both agree that C-Dilla is not a good method.  Intuit
> thought it was a good idea at the time, and has now been convinced
otherwise.
> [You disagree with my opinion on this and believe they still need more
> convincing.]

If Intuit thought it wasn't a good method, they would back off. Instead,
they have posted a solution on their web site that you say is beside the
point because anyone who uses it will disable the software that they paid
for and depend on. This means that Intuit has done nothing. My suspicion is
that Intuit is hoping they can get through the current tax season, and that
everyone will forget about their arrogance, lack of ethics, hostility to
their customers and betrayal of their trust.

Intuit's management doesn't get it, as they say. Just as so much of the rest
of corporate America doesn't get it. These people seem to think that they
have a God-given claim on my money, and carte blache to do anything they
want to do. I think it's time that they be reminded that their proper
position is one of a tradesman who asks politely for my money in return for
a product.

I am stunned by Intuit's arrogance. Even by the reduced ethical standards
that have come to rule corporate America, these people are in a class by
themselves.
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