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"pissed off" also has trouble with basic reading comprehension.

Jim Turner wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:29:19 -0500, "pissed off" <p@p.com> wrote:
>
> >"Jim Turner" <kaijyu@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >news:3e499a76.1232405@free.teranews.com...
> >> >
> >> I don't approve of spyware, corporate or otherwise. My point is that
> >> it is immature and irrational to remove spyware that TTax needs to
> >> run, and then complain when TTax doesn't run.
> >
> >The program "needs" the spyware because Intuit has engineered it that way.
> >The spyware is not integral to the functioning of the software, it is
> >integral to Intuit's desire to spy on its customers. You say you "don't
> >approve of spyware," and in the same breath you say that it is "immature" to
> >remove it, or to complain about it. You are a shill for Intuit.

No he said it is immature to remove it *and* complain that it doesn't work, when
you knew that already.  You need to learn the difference between *and* and *or*.

> I am not a fan of Intuit. It is immature of YOU to use a product that
> runs software you don't want to run. TTax will not run without Cdilla.
> Simple solution, an one that will really send the message to Intuit.
> DON'T RUN TTAX. Send it in for a refund. Cut the whine because you
> keep running TTax, and having to remove cdilla. Use Taxcut. Use
> Taxact. Use Stubby Pencil. Hurt Intuit by costing them money. Stop
> comin off as a spoiled child that can't get his way.

You must be a very bad shill for Intuit, if you're recommending using anything
and everything that is not an Intuit product.  Maybe you're not a shill at all,
and "pissed off" has a lot of misplaced anger.

> >> If you don't want to run cdilla, don't run TTax. Simple. Every time
> >> you run TTax, and reactivate it, Cdilla runs.

I've never met a shill who would tell you not to use the product they were
shilling for.

> >Boy, you're really good at stating the obvious. Have you ever thought of a
> >career as a second-grade teacher? Yes, I know how it works, and I haven't
> >use Turbo Tax since I discovered the nature and extent of the issue. I am
> >hoping that Intuit isn't actually intent upon committing corporate suicide,
> >and will reverse themselves soon. If they do not, then I will abandon Turbo
> >Tax and Quicken.
>
> So use then abandon TTax and Quicken and all other Intuit Products
> until they clean up their act.

I heard that, not once, not twice, but three times.  What kind of a shill would
tell you to hurt the company he is shilling for?  A very poor shill, or one who
is not a shill at all.

> >> By doing that you run
> >> the spyware by choice. Then you get to complain about it.

There is that *and* concept again.  "pissed off" wants to run the software *and*
complain about it.

> You delete
> >> Cdilla, but run reactivate TTax later, hoping that "this time, cdilla
> >> won't be required". You know that you will have to reactivate TTax
> >> after you remove Cdilla before you can use TTax again, but still you
> >> remove Cdilla. Lather, Rinse, Repeat. Seems pointless to me.

I agree.  You're certainly not what I would define as a shill.  Quite the
opposite.  You seem to be rather strongly biased against Intuit, and with
C-Dillas/SafeCast, such a strong bias is quite justified.

> >But you approve of spyware. I don't.
> >
> Never said I approve spyware.

Second time saying this.  See above.

> You have a reading problem. I said
> Running software that uses spyware over and over, like you said you
> did, is approving spyware. You approved spyware by continually running
> and reactivating TTax, even after you found out about the spyware, not
> me.
> >
> >> Me, I don't run any software that requires activation, including TTax.
> >> I avoid spyware. I don't run software that requires spyware, and then
> >> complain the spyware is there. I find alternatives.

That's three times, you've stated that you neither like, want, nor approve of
spyware.  "pissed off" still has a lot of misplaced anger, and wants you to be
the recipient for it.  The problem with such a behavior is that it implies that
you *should* be, *must* be, *need* to be the target of the misplaced anger.  Your
refusal to accept what is not yours shows impeccability.

> >You are a corporate shill. You are saying that it's wrong to complain about
> >a corporate abuse.

It's wrong to complain in a place where your complaint can't and won't be
resolved.  You need to complain in a place where it will be heard, acknowledged,
and possibly resolved.  This is not such a place.  More misplaced anger.

> I am saying your whining comes accross as an immature child who can't
> get his way. You don't like spyware, don't run it. Tell everyone about
> it, but stop whining about having to reactivate over and over because
> of actions you do. GROW UP

Conclusions

(1) Jim Turner does not approve of spyware, stating more than once, and
justifying the reasons for such disapproval.
(2) Jim Turner does not approve of C-Dilla, stating more than once, and
justifying the reasons for such disapproval.
(3) Jim Turner says "don't use C-Dilla", stating more than once, and justifying
the reasons for such disapproval.
(4) Jim Turner does not approve of Intuit products, stating more than once, and
justifying the reasons for such disapproval.
(5) Jim Turner recommends the use of anything and everything that is not an
Intuit product, even suggesting the use of a stubby pencil, implying that there
is no need to use software that doesn't do what you want it to and/or does things
you don't want it to and don't approve of.

My opinion - Jim Turner has proven to be a man of his word, impeccable and
consistant.  "pissed off" has a lot of repressed anger and will attack anything
and everything it believes makes any realistic comments about its response being
unrealistic.  "pissed off" prefers the unrealistic world.
--
"A belief is not merely an idea the mind possesses;
it is an idea that possesses the mind."  Robert Bolton
Criswell The Psychic Weatherman
ssenate@mindless.com


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"pissed off" also has trouble with basic reading comprehension.
<p>Jim Turner wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:29:19 -0500, "pissed off"
&lt;p@p.com> wrote:
<p>>"Jim Turner" &lt;kaijyu@earthlink.net> wrote in message
<br>><a href="news:3e499a76.1232405@free.teranews.com">news:3e499a76.1232405@free.teranews.com</a>...
<br>>> >
<br>>> <b>I don't approve of spyware</b>, corporate or otherwise. My point
is that
<br>>> it is immature and irrational to remove spyware that TTax needs
to
<br>>> run, and then complain when TTax doesn't run.
<br>>
<br>>The program "needs" the spyware because Intuit has engineered it that
way.
<br>>The spyware is not integral to the functioning of the software, it
is
<br>>integral to Intuit's desire to spy on its customers. You say you "don't
<br>>approve of spyware," and in the same breath you say that it is "immature"
to
<br>>remove it, or to complain about it. You are a shill for Intuit.</blockquote>
No he said it is immature to remove it *and* complain that it doesn't work,
when you knew that already.&nbsp; You need to learn the difference between
*and* and *or*.
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>I am not a fan of Intuit. It is immature of YOU to
use a product that
<br>runs software you don't want to run. TTax will not run without Cdilla.
<br>Simple solution, an one that will really send the message to Intuit.
<br>DON'T RUN TTAX. Send it in for a refund. Cut the whine because you
<br>keep running TTax, and having to remove cdilla. Use Taxcut. Use
<br>Taxact. Use Stubby Pencil. Hurt Intuit by costing them money. Stop
<br>comin off as a spoiled child that can't get his way.</blockquote>
You must be a very bad shill for Intuit, if you're recommending using anything
and everything that is not an Intuit product.&nbsp; Maybe you're not a
shill at all, and "pissed off" has a lot of misplaced anger.
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>>> If you don't want to run cdilla, don't run TTax.
Simple. Every time
<br>>> you run TTax, and reactivate it, Cdilla runs.</blockquote>
I've never met a shill who would tell you not to use the product they were
shilling for.
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>>Boy, you're really good at stating the obvious.
Have you ever thought of a
<br>>career as a second-grade teacher? Yes, I know how it works, and I
haven't
<br>>use Turbo Tax since I discovered the nature and extent of the issue.
I am
<br>>hoping that Intuit isn't actually intent upon committing corporate
suicide,
<br>>and will reverse themselves soon. If they do not, then I will abandon
Turbo
<br>>Tax and Quicken.
<p>So use then abandon TTax and Quicken and all other Intuit Products
<br>until they clean up their act.</blockquote>
I heard that, not once, not twice, but three times.&nbsp; What kind of
a shill would tell you to hurt the company he is shilling for?&nbsp; A
very poor shill, or one who is not a shill at all.
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>>> By doing that you run
<br>>> the spyware by choice. Then you get to complain about it.</blockquote>
There is that *and* concept again.&nbsp; "pissed off" wants to run the
software *and* complain about it.
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>You delete
<br>>> Cdilla, but run reactivate TTax later, hoping that "this time, cdilla
<br>>> won't be required". You know that you will have to reactivate TTax
<br>>> after you remove Cdilla before you can use TTax again, but still
you
<br>>> remove Cdilla. Lather, Rinse, Repeat. Seems pointless to me.</blockquote>
I agree.&nbsp; You're certainly not what I would define as a shill.&nbsp;
Quite the opposite.&nbsp; You seem to be rather strongly biased against
Intuit, and with C-Dillas/SafeCast, such a strong bias is quite justified.
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>>But you approve of spyware. I don't.
<br>>
<br>Never said I approve spyware.</blockquote>
Second time saying this.&nbsp; See above.
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>You have a reading problem. I said
<br>Running software that uses spyware over and over, like you said you
<br>did, is approving spyware. You approved spyware by continually running
<br>and reactivating TTax, even after you found out about the spyware,
not
<br>me.
<br>>
<br>>> Me, I don't run any software that requires activation, including
TTax.
<br>>> I avoid spyware. I don't run software that requires spyware, and
then
<br>>> complain the spyware is there. I find alternatives.</blockquote>
That's three times, you've stated that you neither like, want, nor approve
of spyware.&nbsp; "pissed off" still has a lot of misplaced anger, and
wants you to be the recipient for it.&nbsp; The problem with such a behavior
is that it implies that you *should* be, *must* be, *need* to be the target
of the misplaced anger.&nbsp; Your refusal to accept what is not yours
shows impeccability.
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>>You are a corporate shill. You are saying that it's
wrong to complain about
<br>>a corporate abuse.</blockquote>
It's wrong to complain in a place where your complaint can't and won't
be resolved.&nbsp; You need to complain in a place where it will be heard,
acknowledged, and possibly resolved.&nbsp; This is not such a place.&nbsp;
More misplaced anger.
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>I am saying your whining comes accross as an immature
child who can't
<br>get his way. You don't like spyware, don't run it. Tell everyone about
<br>it, but stop whining about having to reactivate over and over because
<br>of actions you do. GROW UP</blockquote>
Conclusions
<p>(1) Jim Turner does not approve of spyware, stating more than once,
and justifying the reasons for such disapproval.
<br>(2) Jim Turner does not approve of C-Dilla, stating more than once,
and justifying the reasons for such disapproval.
<br>(3) Jim Turner says "don't use C-Dilla", stating more than once, and
justifying the reasons for such disapproval.
<br>(4) Jim Turner does not approve of Intuit products, stating more than
once, and justifying the reasons for such disapproval.
<br>(5) Jim Turner recommends the use of anything and everything that is
not an Intuit product, even suggesting the use of a stubby pencil, implying
that there is no need to use software that doesn't do what you want it
to and/or does things you don't want it to and don't approve of.
<p>My opinion - Jim Turner has proven to be a man of his word, impeccable
and consistant.&nbsp; "pissed off" has a lot of repressed anger and will
attack anything and everything it believes makes any realistic comments
about its response being unrealistic.&nbsp; "pissed off" prefers the unrealistic
world.
<br>--
<br>"A belief is not merely an idea the mind possesses;
<br>it is an idea that possesses the mind."&nbsp; Robert Bolton
<br>Criswell The Psychic Weatherman
<br>ssenate@mindless.com
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