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Re: QB2001 pro review

#83
From: Pam Brayton
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 00:04
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I never cease to be amazed what people expect for a week's worth of
groceries. QB is an excellent value, does nearly everything a small buz
REALLY needs, and is basically all I use in my accounting practice.  I've
used JD Edwards, SAP, million dollar custom programs, and it is incredible
what we get for $150- QB2001 is worth every penny!

Mike Block, Tax Fighting C.P.A. <mblockNO_SPAM@blocktax.com> wrote in
message news:3a79ac5c.67588780@news.mindspring.com...
> On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:43:03 -0600, "Karl Schmidt" <karl@xtronics.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Hey, I installed the blasted software - it lacks any features that would
get
> >me to buy it.  It appears you have some kind of interest in this. see
below
> >
> >> What something DOES NOT DO is always totally irrelevant. You
> >> should always ask, "what does it do & what does it cost?"
> >
> >Not if you are trying to find a customer and you have a phone number and
zip
> >code - you know they are in the data base - you just can't search unless
you
> >export the customer list. - Where do you get this "..DOES NOT DO is
always
> >totally irrelevant" - it is quite relevant.
>
> What something does not do is relevant ONLY IF YOU HAVE
> ALTERNATIVES. QB99 does not do it. Peachtree & other low cost
> mainstream accounting programs do not do it or economically import
> recent QB accounting data. If this is the one thing that matters to you,
> don't buy QB2001. With about 90% of the small business accounting
> market Intuit is not so foolish as to waste money getting the other 10%.
> Some always want new features, but only a very few agree on a given
> feature. That is why hundreds of companies come and go & Intuit rules
> with QB, Quicken and TurboTax. If they get any better they will lose it
all
> in an anti-monopoly attack.
>
> >> I previously listed dozens of very useful new QB2001 features,
> >> starting with an outstanding new menu design that instantly jumps
> >> between your open windows, quickly returns to recent data files
> >> and prevents most backup/restore errors.
> >
> >Just what I want - software that "prevent MOST backup/restores
> >errors"-<sigh, groan, cough, cardiac pain>
>
> Backup errors & lack of backups kill many times the number of
> small businesses that QB competitors have as customers. Better
> QB2001 backups may determine whether you or your competitor
> survives. CPAs who do not inform clients of serious risks, when
> there are reasonable alternatives, get sued for malpractice.  Of
> course, clients need not listen.
>
> >> QB still does not do medical billing or milk the cows. It does not
> >> even have a programmable database. That is what all supposedly
> >> influential QB6 pre-release beta testers said was most important
> >> more than three years ago, at prices of up to $2,000 a copy.
> >
> >Hate to tell you - but SQL is free - and someone will have software for
the
> >small business that uses it sooner or later. I would spend $1000 for a
QB99
> >pro like GUI front end.
>
> 39 years ago, when there were no database programs, I wrote my own.
> We have long used SQL and others. For over a year my website has
> had, by far, the largest list of QB add-ons. Included there, and often
> mentioned here, is a $100 datablox program. It converts QB to Access,
> so SQL can search phone numbers and lots more.
>
> >> By listening to its research, not us, QB has since increased market
> >> share from 78% to about 90%. This occurred even though a rather big
> >> survey by Doug Sleeter (http://sleeter.com/) showed 98% of QB2000
> >> users were initially unhappy with it and all CPAs opposed it.
> >
> >So, we should buy it because they are good at marketing??? They have
become
> >the M$ of the accounting software world - so how is that good for me?
>
> There was a time when Peachtree and BPI - Accpac had near 100% of
> the small business market. Intuit buried them. It has and will continue
> to revolutionize how we manage our businesses and finances because
> of its ease of use, ease of correction and power, not tired marketing.
>
> >> Doug's new survey shows most users warmly embracing QB2001,
> >> with all CPAs trying to move clients to it as fast as possible. You
> >> really should visit his website to read the full review, with its
> >> many excellent screen shots.
> >
> >I could write a survey that would show mothers like broken glass - but
this
> >still won't fix the data condensing problem and lack of search
capabilities.
> >I smell a financial interest on your part???
>
> When QB had about an 78% market share a survey showed only about 15%
> of CPAs supported it. It is ridiculous to suggest that many independent
CPAs,
> committed by professionalism AND THE LAW to the best low cost client
> accounting programs, violated their trust by encouraging QB upgrades until
> 2000. Then we all suddenly decided to abandon it and equally suddenly
> decided to embrace QB2001. Why would we make two opposite decisions
> due to our personal financial interest, when that interest and our
professional
> obligations remained constant in this area?
>
> Sure we fought QB about buying 2000 tax tables for each client, not for
each
> copy of QB. However, we resolved that by 2/15/00. Doug's 2000 survey was
> after that & was about the same as the 2001 survey. QB2000 was the first
QB
> having excessive problems & needing excessive training. Most CPAs did
> clients a favor by saying that. Market share grew once QB2000 came out
> due to an unprecedented event - old and new customers wanted  QB99, so
> production resumed. Only when 2001 arrived did 99 & 2000 production stop.
>
> Market share also grew because of serious Y2K problems with everything
> before QB99. Many also bought 2000 because they knew that most QB
> knowledgeable CPAs always encouraged QB upgrades or they wanted a
> new feature or upgrades cost little more tax tables.
>
> >> QB Pro 2001 is only $119.95 from CompUSA, after an $80 rebate. We
> >> like it so much that our clients get it, & A FREE 462 PAGE QB BOOK,
> >> FOR $100 **> INSTALLED! <**
> >>
> >And a two user update? Anyway my point is why install it even if it
> >was free? Unless you want a slower system, risks of new bugs, etc.
>
> I remember when a megabyte of memory cost more than $10,000, not
> the 40 cents it does now (256mb,  less than $100). CPAs once bought
> programs costing $5,000, with dollars worth double. These programs
> were bargains for what they did, though we wished for more. Today's
> programs and computers are ridiculous bargains with incredible power,
> so it is hard to relate to those crying over what they cannot do YET!
>
> Besides, I may know your problem. QB2001 is FASTER unless you
> have 32mb or less of main memory or run other programs with it in
> less than 128mb (about $60). 128mb is the minimum Intuit wanted last
> year for linking QB and TurboTax ProSeries. Modern computers are
> four times as fast as the four year old ones that should be thrown away.
> Each new QB, Office and other serious program does us a favor by
> being written for fairly recent computers, so we dump time wasting relics.
>
> >> There are very few things that will so increase your productivity
> >> for less than $10 a month. I really think it is actually making my
> >> office a happier place to be.
> >
> >After installing the new software on a spare machine - loading up my
> >company file and fiddling with it for an hour or so I remain unconvinced
> >that it would increase productivity - it might even reduce it - having
> >to train folks on the new 'features' dealing with new bugs etc. If I
> >just HAD to have multilevel pricing, I would probably upgrade. - But I
> >don't.. I  write this to save others that hour.
> >
> > - So hear this --
> >
> >If there is a feature you just gotta have in QB2001 go buy it - if not -
> >just stay with the old dependable QB99
>
> Hear this: you are not supported by a single CPA in a large number
> surveyed. QB and accounting programs are our business. We and
> our staffs may do nothing but use QB daily. Our clients are like you,
> in wanting to minimize bookkeeping time and amounts they pay us.
> That is why we are pushing them to upgrade to save us both time
> and money.
>
> QB2001 is such a dream that my total upgrade and training time, for
> clients AND staff, is less than eight hours. Of course, I had a big
> advantage that you and my staff did not, as I again pre-release beta
> tested QB for months before the official release. We saved our eight
> hours in less than two days, by quickly and instinctively switching
> between open QB windows and recent QB files, and by returning to
> our place in reports after drilling down.
>
> We will save 20 times as much with better backups and less disaster
> recovery time this year. You may do what you like, as we all often do.
> However, you endanger & hurt any QB user not upgrading.
>
>      Mike Block - Tax Cut CPA
>   World's #1 QuickBooks Top Tester
>     FREE  NetLedger accounting
>   FREE 462p QB books/error codes
> 100+ QB add-ons http://blocktax.com/
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From: "Pam Brayton" <pjaw@capital.net>
Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.financial.quickbooks,biz.comp.accounting
Subject: Re: QB2001 pro review
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