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Article #83Re: QB2001 pro review
From: Pam Brayton
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 00:04
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 00:04
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I never cease to be amazed what people expect for a week's worth of groceries. QB is an excellent value, does nearly everything a small buz REALLY needs, and is basically all I use in my accounting practice. I've used JD Edwards, SAP, million dollar custom programs, and it is incredible what we get for $150- QB2001 is worth every penny! Mike Block, Tax Fighting C.P.A. <mblockNO_SPAM@blocktax.com> wrote in message news:3a79ac5c.67588780@news.mindspring.com... > On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:43:03 -0600, "Karl Schmidt" <karl@xtronics.com> > wrote: > > >Hey, I installed the blasted software - it lacks any features that would get > >me to buy it. It appears you have some kind of interest in this. see below > > > >> What something DOES NOT DO is always totally irrelevant. You > >> should always ask, "what does it do & what does it cost?" > > > >Not if you are trying to find a customer and you have a phone number and zip > >code - you know they are in the data base - you just can't search unless you > >export the customer list. - Where do you get this "..DOES NOT DO is always > >totally irrelevant" - it is quite relevant. > > What something does not do is relevant ONLY IF YOU HAVE > ALTERNATIVES. QB99 does not do it. Peachtree & other low cost > mainstream accounting programs do not do it or economically import > recent QB accounting data. If this is the one thing that matters to you, > don't buy QB2001. With about 90% of the small business accounting > market Intuit is not so foolish as to waste money getting the other 10%. > Some always want new features, but only a very few agree on a given > feature. That is why hundreds of companies come and go & Intuit rules > with QB, Quicken and TurboTax. If they get any better they will lose it all > in an anti-monopoly attack. > > >> I previously listed dozens of very useful new QB2001 features, > >> starting with an outstanding new menu design that instantly jumps > >> between your open windows, quickly returns to recent data files > >> and prevents most backup/restore errors. > > > >Just what I want - software that "prevent MOST backup/restores > >errors"-<sigh, groan, cough, cardiac pain> > > Backup errors & lack of backups kill many times the number of > small businesses that QB competitors have as customers. Better > QB2001 backups may determine whether you or your competitor > survives. CPAs who do not inform clients of serious risks, when > there are reasonable alternatives, get sued for malpractice. Of > course, clients need not listen. > > >> QB still does not do medical billing or milk the cows. It does not > >> even have a programmable database. That is what all supposedly > >> influential QB6 pre-release beta testers said was most important > >> more than three years ago, at prices of up to $2,000 a copy. > > > >Hate to tell you - but SQL is free - and someone will have software for the > >small business that uses it sooner or later. I would spend $1000 for a QB99 > >pro like GUI front end. > > 39 years ago, when there were no database programs, I wrote my own. > We have long used SQL and others. For over a year my website has > had, by far, the largest list of QB add-ons. Included there, and often > mentioned here, is a $100 datablox program. It converts QB to Access, > so SQL can search phone numbers and lots more. > > >> By listening to its research, not us, QB has since increased market > >> share from 78% to about 90%. This occurred even though a rather big > >> survey by Doug Sleeter (http://sleeter.com/) showed 98% of QB2000 > >> users were initially unhappy with it and all CPAs opposed it. > > > >So, we should buy it because they are good at marketing??? They have become > >the M$ of the accounting software world - so how is that good for me? > > There was a time when Peachtree and BPI - Accpac had near 100% of > the small business market. Intuit buried them. It has and will continue > to revolutionize how we manage our businesses and finances because > of its ease of use, ease of correction and power, not tired marketing. > > >> Doug's new survey shows most users warmly embracing QB2001, > >> with all CPAs trying to move clients to it as fast as possible. You > >> really should visit his website to read the full review, with its > >> many excellent screen shots. > > > >I could write a survey that would show mothers like broken glass - but this > >still won't fix the data condensing problem and lack of search capabilities. > >I smell a financial interest on your part??? > > When QB had about an 78% market share a survey showed only about 15% > of CPAs supported it. It is ridiculous to suggest that many independent CPAs, > committed by professionalism AND THE LAW to the best low cost client > accounting programs, violated their trust by encouraging QB upgrades until > 2000. Then we all suddenly decided to abandon it and equally suddenly > decided to embrace QB2001. Why would we make two opposite decisions > due to our personal financial interest, when that interest and our professional > obligations remained constant in this area? > > Sure we fought QB about buying 2000 tax tables for each client, not for each > copy of QB. However, we resolved that by 2/15/00. Doug's 2000 survey was > after that & was about the same as the 2001 survey. QB2000 was the first QB > having excessive problems & needing excessive training. Most CPAs did > clients a favor by saying that. Market share grew once QB2000 came out > due to an unprecedented event - old and new customers wanted QB99, so > production resumed. Only when 2001 arrived did 99 & 2000 production stop. > > Market share also grew because of serious Y2K problems with everything > before QB99. Many also bought 2000 because they knew that most QB > knowledgeable CPAs always encouraged QB upgrades or they wanted a > new feature or upgrades cost little more tax tables. > > >> QB Pro 2001 is only $119.95 from CompUSA, after an $80 rebate. We > >> like it so much that our clients get it, & A FREE 462 PAGE QB BOOK, > >> FOR $100 **> INSTALLED! <** > >> > >And a two user update? Anyway my point is why install it even if it > >was free? Unless you want a slower system, risks of new bugs, etc. > > I remember when a megabyte of memory cost more than $10,000, not > the 40 cents it does now (256mb, less than $100). CPAs once bought > programs costing $5,000, with dollars worth double. These programs > were bargains for what they did, though we wished for more. Today's > programs and computers are ridiculous bargains with incredible power, > so it is hard to relate to those crying over what they cannot do YET! > > Besides, I may know your problem. QB2001 is FASTER unless you > have 32mb or less of main memory or run other programs with it in > less than 128mb (about $60). 128mb is the minimum Intuit wanted last > year for linking QB and TurboTax ProSeries. Modern computers are > four times as fast as the four year old ones that should be thrown away. > Each new QB, Office and other serious program does us a favor by > being written for fairly recent computers, so we dump time wasting relics. > > >> There are very few things that will so increase your productivity > >> for less than $10 a month. I really think it is actually making my > >> office a happier place to be. > > > >After installing the new software on a spare machine - loading up my > >company file and fiddling with it for an hour or so I remain unconvinced > >that it would increase productivity - it might even reduce it - having > >to train folks on the new 'features' dealing with new bugs etc. If I > >just HAD to have multilevel pricing, I would probably upgrade. - But I > >don't.. I write this to save others that hour. > > > > - So hear this -- > > > >If there is a feature you just gotta have in QB2001 go buy it - if not - > >just stay with the old dependable QB99 > > Hear this: you are not supported by a single CPA in a large number > surveyed. QB and accounting programs are our business. We and > our staffs may do nothing but use QB daily. Our clients are like you, > in wanting to minimize bookkeeping time and amounts they pay us. > That is why we are pushing them to upgrade to save us both time > and money. > > QB2001 is such a dream that my total upgrade and training time, for > clients AND staff, is less than eight hours. Of course, I had a big > advantage that you and my staff did not, as I again pre-release beta > tested QB for months before the official release. We saved our eight > hours in less than two days, by quickly and instinctively switching > between open QB windows and recent QB files, and by returning to > our place in reports after drilling down. > > We will save 20 times as much with better backups and less disaster > recovery time this year. You may do what you like, as we all often do. > However, you endanger & hurt any QB user not upgrading. > > Mike Block - Tax Cut CPA > World's #1 QuickBooks Top Tester > FREE NetLedger accounting > FREE 462p QB books/error codes > 100+ QB add-ons http://blocktax.com/ > QB no-spam news: biz.comp.accounting > ----------------------------------- > Spam bait admin@localhost abuse@localhost > webmaster@localhost postmaster@127.0.0.1 > enforcement@sec.gov cyberfraud@nasaa.org > > >
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