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Article #177Re: Is there a newsreader that...
From: Arjan Drieman
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 00:00
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 00:00
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On Fri, 07 Jul 2000 13:21:30 GMT, ^^^LeoN^^
<lenux@pisem.net_auto_no> wrote:
>Well, so it suit you. (to install it to Ur needs U want to compile SLRN first, am i
>right?)
It's you, not u. And no, you don't need to compile it. There's a
precompiled binary package for win32, and most (if not all) linux
distributions have it packaged also. All i needed to do was
apt-get install slrn
and slrn and the s-lang library were downloaded, unpacked and installed
onto my system.
>>>> And, even worse, it has a MID ending on "4ax.com", a domain registered
>>>> by Forte Inc. Which means that by using their newsreader, you give
>>>> Forte Inc the right to cancel your messages.
>>>
>&they do, actually? Just am sending it viaCOM Free Agent..
>>>I do not know that. I know that I can only cancel a message with my
>>>newsreader if that message has been sent by me.
>>
>>Well, seems like you can learn something every day.
>>
>
>ComOn. I NEVER saw any rights granted, like this in the license agreement, e`ven under
>GENERAL. The fact, that they CAN do that techni`cally, doesn't mean they MAY - legally,
>if there ARE laws (Oops, game [grin] rules, naturally speaking:-) of cos. Full stop.
There's nothing in the license agreement about it. It's not necessary.
It's very simple. There are rules for cancels:
First party cancel - you may cancel your own posts
Second party cancel - a newsmaster may cancel posts posted through his
server.
Third party cancel - spam cancels done according to the spam cancel
rules.
Now according to rfc 1036, the part behind the @ in the message-id is
the host where the message first entered the network.
According to the cancel rules, the owner of that host may cancel the
message.
Is 1+1 indeed 2 in this case? Yes. If you use *my* domain in your
message-id, I may cancel your posts.
So Forte Inc. may cancel your posts.
Will they use that right? Probably not. The question is, however, do
you want to *give* them that right. Is it right for them to say,
"okay, you may use our newsreader, but we have the right to cancel your
messages."?
BTW, a usenet convention is not to make lines longer than 72 characters.
Arjan
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