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Re: Is there a newsreader that...

#179
From: ^^^LeoN^^
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 00:00
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On 7 Jul 2000 21:58:08 GMT impersonator of qhpxvr@abqr0911.n2000.ay.invalid (Arjan
Drieman) planted &I saw in news.software.readers:

>On Fri, 07 Jul 2000 13:21:30 GMT, ^^^LeoN^^
>     <lenux@pisem.net_auto_no> wrote:
>
>>Well, so it suit you. (to install it to Ur needs U want to compile SLRN first, am i
>>right?)
>
>It's you, not u.  And no, you don't need to compile it.  There's a 
>precompiled binary package for win32, and most (if not all) linux
>distributions have it packaged also.  All i needed to do was
> apt-get install slrn
>

Ok, if U insist..(By the way the 'horse_shue' to the luck :-) You are right, there ARe
ready-made binaries, though when I downloaded stuff (for WinDoze) they were not there..
And I said, if you paid attention: 'to Ur (sorry - your:-) - NEEDS', not in (Boston:-)
Common! It is not very friendly 2 (oops - to) users - to have them search for parts of
the package in different plAces, to begin with. 

>and slrn and the s-lang library were downloaded, unpacked and installed
>onto my system.
>

Good 4 (that is FOR:-) you. But I'll try to avoid slrn (likewise the famous 'powerful'
VI editor, coz (of course:-) they are COMmand based, mostly). 

>
>>>>> And, even worse, it has a MID ending on "4ax.com", a domain registered
>>>>> by Forte Inc.  Which means that by using their newsreader, you give
>>>>> Forte Inc the right to cancel your messages.
>>>>

>>&they do, actually? Just am sending it viaCOM Free Agent..
Please, separate posters, will YOU?

>>>>I do not know that. I know that I can only cancel a message with my
>>>>newsreader if that message has been sent by me.
>>>
>>>Well, seems like you can learn something every day.
>>>
>>
>>ComOn. I NEVER saw any rights granted, like this in the license agreement, e`ven under
>>GENERAL. The fact, that they CAN do that techni`cally, doesn't mean they MAY - legally,
>>if there ARE laws (Oops, game [grin] rules, naturally speaking:-) of cos. Full stop.
>
>There's nothing in the license agreement about it.  It's not necessary.
>It's very simple.  There are rules for cancels:
>

These ARe YOUR rules!. (Every lion is his own master:-) As long as they adds on to 7:-)

>First party cancel - you may cancel your own posts
>Second party cancel - a newsmaster may cancel posts posted through his
>                       server.
>Third party cancel - spam cancels done according to the spam cancel
>                       rules.
>

And where this pyramid ends, naturally? in the for`est?:-) Sir.
(see my previous post regarding:-) but this is not for voting, i think..

>
>Now according to rfc 1036, the part behind the @ in the message-id is
>the host where the message first entered the network.
>
Will not argue with that (eVEN without reading the source); It sounds logical :-) but
not to the point!

>According to the cancel rules, the owner of that host may cancel the
>message.
>

Invent father..:-)

>Is 1+1 indeed 2 in this case?  Yes.  If you use *my* domain in your
>message-id, I may cancel your posts.
>

May definitely CAN. Is 5+5+5+1 equal 16, indeed? (or 54?:-)

>So Forte Inc. may cancel your posts.
>

As I said: May CAN everything, coz (because) the only rule for it, that there are no
rules, except the Honored 'traditions')

>Will they use that right?  Probably not.

How very KINd of them:-)
 
>....................................................... The question is, however, do
>you want to *give* them that right.  Is it right for them to say,
>"okay, you may use our newsreader, but we have the right to cancel your
>messages."?
>

(If you were born ealier:-)
Lets live by the natural mountain tribal 'laws' :-) Every body takes as much rights, as
1 (One) can.
Believe to the deeds, not words, is that what you `rr trying to say (convince from the
contrary:-)?

>
>BTW, a usenet convention is not to make lines longer than 72 characters.
>

Really?, I read, it is flexible around 74 (up to 77 e'ven:-). 
But I am seldom quoted :-(

>
>Arjan
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Nope. WELL, not from HERE.
As far as I am concerned, THIS case closed.
ARIvederchi!
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Subject: Re: Is there a newsreader that...
Date: 2000/07/08
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