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Re: Is there a newsreader that...

#183
From: Csaba Raduly
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 00:00
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06 Jul 2000: A formal bug report was sent to Seti@Home, because the
following message originated from psychiatrist@general-hospital.com
(The Dr) was reported as containing signs of intelligence: 

>Arjan Drieman schreef:
>
>> On Wed, 05 Jul 2000 23:42:43 +0200, The Dr
>>        <psychiatrist@general-hospital.com> wrote:
>>
>> >does NOT include the name of my news server in the message id and
>> >at the same time allows me to add X-headers.
>>
>> In slrn, you can customize all headers any way you like, except
>> for 
>
>Excuse me but I am a human being and this is the 21st century. slrn
>seems  a product of the 1950's. A user should not have to study a
>few days first on how to handle a program. 

Which part of "Press ? for help" did you have trouble with ?

>The program is supposed
>to do the dull work, in other words: slrn is out!!!
>

Pity. If I hadn't been seduced by XNews I'd be using slrn now (still do 
it occasionally when visiting the nana* groups)

>> the headers restricted by your news server.  That category usually
>> includes stuff like the X-Complaints-To and X-Trace headers.
>
>Only an ordinairy news server does that.
>

What extraordinary newsserver do you use ?

>> Why don't you want to see the name of the server in the MID? 
>> People can see that in the Path anyways.
>
>True but not in the archive (deja news)
>
>> What do you want in the MID otherwise?  The part behind the "@"
>> in the MID is the host where the message first entered the
>> network, as per RFC 1036 [1].  That's either your host, or the
>> news server, that's debatable.  With dynamic IP's it'd be smart to
>> use the newsserver's hostname anyways, because you'd give the next
>> person using that IP the right to cancel your post if you'd use
>> your own. 
>
>The message you responded to did not show the host in the MID
>(3963ABD3.8DB537A8@general-hospital.com)
>
>> >2. Outlook does not include news server in message id but does
>> >not allow X-headers
>>
>> Outlook is lusercrapware.
>>
>> >3. Free Agent does not include news server in message id but does
>> >not allow X-headers
>>
>> And, even worse, it has a MID ending on "4ax.com", a domain
>> registered by Forte Inc.  Which means that by using their
>> newsreader, you give Forte Inc the right to cancel your messages.
>
>I do not know that. I know that I can only cancel a message with my
>newsreader if that message has been sent by me.
>
>Ciao!
>
>


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Csaba Raduly, Software Developer (OS/2), Sophos Anti-Virus
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References: <3963ABD3.8DB537A8@general-hospital.com> <slrn8m7obu.cd.qhpxvr@quack.node0911.a2000.nl> <3964D053.CFE83AEA@general-hospital.com>

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From: csaba_r@my-deja.com (Csaba Raduly)
Subject: Re: Is there a newsreader that...
Date: 2000/07/10
Message-ID: <8F6DAE6E0quuxi@194.203.134.200>
X-Deja-AN: 644647533
Approved: The Authentic Approver
References: <3963ABD3.8DB537A8@general-hospital.com> <slrn8m7obu.cd.qhpxvr@quack.node0911.a2000.nl> <3964D053.CFE83AEA@general-hospital.com>
X-Led-Zeppelin: Rulez !
X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@sophos.com
X-Trace: forties.sophos.com 963244399 5956 194.203.134.240 (10 Jul 2000 15:53:19 GMT)
Organization: SOPHOS Plc
User-Agent: Xnews/03.04.11
NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Jul 2000 15:53:19 GMT
Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.tools,hr.news.software,news.software.readers