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Article #331Re: New PDA Search Engine
From: Eric Lindsay's spam trap
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 23:22
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 23:22
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On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 18:02:56 +0100, "PDA-Search.net" >http://www.pda-search.net Nice to see a clean layout without heaps of graphics to slow it down for anyone connecting via a cell phone or other slow network connections. Very good to see a PDA version up already, and that is what I will comment on. I note that neither version are written in valid HTML, as confirmed by http://validator.w3.org Neither include even a Doctype. A Doctype is needed to let a browser know just how to render the page (after all, browsers need to know the rules). List of Doctypes http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/04/valid-dtd-list.html Choosing a doctype http://htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/doctype.html I tried specifying that you were using HTML 4.01 Transistional (which apart from HTML 3.2 is probably the most relaxed about rendering rules). Naturally "topmargin" and "leftmargin" threw up as errors. These attributes of the body tag are actually IE specific, not part of standard HTML, and you therefore can't count on any other browser actually using them. You might also note that your img for your logo requires an alt tag. Apart from actual HTML errors, I am also worried about several usability issues, of the type people like Jakob Nielsen note about many web pages. See http://www.useit.com or one of his books such as "Designing Web Usability". For example, why are you using a fixed width layout? Your tables are variously set to 800 and 240 pixels. I note most older Palm OS devices use 160x160 displays, while newer ones are more like 320 wide. However, I've also noted a recent Palm OS 5 device with a 160x160 monochrome display, aimed at the RIM market. On my PDA at least, I can zoom the display to suit my vision. If this capability is in many browsers (and it is in most Windows PC mainstream browsers) then at large zoom factors, a fixed width presentation requires horizontal scrolling. This is totally obnoxious to most users. I'd suggest dropping the fixed width stuff. You just don't know what size future displays will be. However one thing I'd mention is that in the Europe and Middle East, Symbian device sales are up over 900% this year, and now make up more than 53% of the entire market, outselling Palm and Windows CE combined. These phones have browsers (and many other PDA applications), and you don't seem to be taking this into account in your web page design. Use of Verdana as a default font also seems to me unwise in the long term. I know it is a great readable font (it was specially designed to be readable in small type sizes). However, it is totally different in size to all other fonts. If a browser doesn't have it (and remember it is a Windows specific font) then they will substitute fonts such as Ariel or a generic SanSerif font, which will appear much smaller. -- Eric Lindsay http://www.ericlindsay.com/guff Airlie Beach Qld Australia - Great Barrier Reef entry Psion & Epoc site http://www.ericlindsay.com/epoc
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