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Started by David Abraham
Wed, 19 Jun 2002 04:16
an IDEA for PDA's
Author: David Abraham
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 04:16
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 04:16
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Ideas are cheap, ideas are not patentable, only expressions or instances of an idea are protectable under the laws of Intellectual Property. OK, folks, I have an IDEA, an idea that combines a handheld-type device, some extra hardware, and some software. I estimate that the nation-wide revenues of such a package of hardware / software would be between $25MM and $1 MMM in three years, and more if it is marketed internationally. The cost of implementation ought to be negligible. But the catch is: I won't talk to anyone, like Palm or Handspring, about my idea, because they won't talk to me without my revealing my idea, and they won't sign a legal agreement promising to keep my idea secret and / or to negotiate with me if they want to implement my idea. So, I'm looking for interest in an idea I won't even hint at here, interest from someone who has the clout or connections to implement it. What's in it for you: part of the pie, of course. What's the down-side? You waste five minutes talking with me. BTW, I live in New York City and I am a professional software developer. If you live close by, it will be easiest to get together. David Abraham davidkernabraham@hotmail.com
Re: an IDEA for PDA's
Author: Don Darker
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 12:53
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 12:53
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Talk to Handera! "David Abraham" <d-k-a@rcn.com> wrote in message news:aep0r1$n0u$1@bob.news.rcn.net... > Ideas are cheap, ideas are not patentable, only expressions or instances of > an idea are protectable under the laws of Intellectual Property. > > OK, folks, I have an IDEA, an idea that combines a handheld-type device, > some extra hardware, and some software. I estimate that the nation-wide > revenues of such a package of hardware / software would be between $25MM and > $1 MMM in three years, and more if it is marketed internationally. The cost > of implementation ought to be negligible. > > But the catch is: I won't talk to anyone, like Palm or Handspring, about my > idea, because they won't talk to me without my revealing my idea, and they > won't sign a legal agreement promising to keep my idea secret and / or to > negotiate with me if they want to implement my idea. > > So, I'm looking for interest in an idea I won't even hint at here, interest > from someone who has the clout or connections to implement it. What's in it > for you: part of the pie, of course. What's the down-side? You waste five > minutes talking with me. > > BTW, I live in New York City and I am a professional software developer. If > you live close by, it will be easiest to get together. > > David Abraham > davidkernabraham@hotmail.com > > > >
Re: an IDEA for PDA's
Author: Kent Halac
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 14:07
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 14:07
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> So, I'm looking for interest in an idea I won't even hint at here, interest > from someone who has the clout or connections to implement it. What's in it > for you: part of the pie, of course. What's the down-side? You waste five > minutes talking with me. Ever hear of a business plan? Put a coherent plan regarding markets, revenues, competition and costs with solid milestones and deliverables on paper and go after venture capital. Good luck at getting anyone with money and/or market access to sign a non-disclosure agreement. If you want money or market access from someone else for your idea, you have to work by their terms. Kent
Re: an IDEA for PDA's
Author: Mark S
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 14:26
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 14:26
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It looks like you have an "expression" of an idea with specific implementation on a PDA with hardware and software. You can patent this... make notes with dates. You then get to spend a lot of money on lawyers filing and defending your patent. "Anyone who's ever taken a shower has had a great idea." - Nolan Bushnell Good luck. /Mark "David Abraham" <d-k-a@rcn.com> wrote in message news:aep0r1$n0u$1@bob.news.rcn.net... > Ideas are cheap, ideas are not patentable, only expressions or instances of > an idea are protectable under the laws of Intellectual Property. > > OK, folks, I have an IDEA, an idea that combines a handheld-type device, > some extra hardware, and some software. I estimate that the nation-wide > revenues of such a package of hardware / software would be between $25MM and > $1 MMM in three years, and more if it is marketed internationally. The cost > of implementation ought to be negligible. > > But the catch is: I won't talk to anyone, like Palm or Handspring, about my > idea, because they won't talk to me without my revealing my idea, and they > won't sign a legal agreement promising to keep my idea secret and / or to > negotiate with me if they want to implement my idea. > > So, I'm looking for interest in an idea I won't even hint at here, interest > from someone who has the clout or connections to implement it. What's in it > for you: part of the pie, of course. What's the down-side? You waste five > minutes talking with me. > > BTW, I live in New York City and I am a professional software developer. If > you live close by, it will be easiest to get together. > > David Abraham > davidkernabraham@hotmail.com > > > >
Re: an IDEA for PDA's
Author: Steven Whatley
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 15:57
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 15:57
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In alt.comp.sys.palmtops.pilot Mark S <nospam@here.com> wrote: > "Anyone who's ever taken a shower has had a great idea." - Nolan Bushnell Why is that folks come up with their best ideas while in the shower? Maybe employers should start putting shower stalls in cubicles and offices. :) Later, Steven
Re: an IDEA for PDA's
Author: Mark Wilden
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 16:30
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 16:30
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"Steven Whatley" <swhatley@blkbox.com> wrote in message news:vR1Q8.25014$8i1.1568770@bin2.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com... > Why is that folks come up with their best ideas while in the shower? > Maybe employers should start putting shower stalls in cubicles and > offices. :) Or maybe more of us should telecommute (like me, who sometimes takes a shower just to solve a problem).
Re: an IDEA for PDA's
Author: Commander Riker
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 19:47
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 19:47
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What is your idea......to make an edible PDA? Tasty. No really, what is it? Is it like one of those things you see in ghostbusters which Egon used to use....which tracked ghosts? Wow that's so cool, better patent that right away "David Abraham" <d-k-a@rcn.com> wrote in message news:<aep0r1$n0u$1@bob.news.rcn.net>... > Ideas are cheap, ideas are not patentable, only expressions or instances of > an idea are protectable under the laws of Intellectual Property. > > OK, folks, I have an IDEA, an idea that combines a handheld-type device, > some extra hardware, and some software. I estimate that the nation-wide > revenues of such a package of hardware / software would be between $25MM and > $1 MMM in three years, and more if it is marketed internationally. The cost > of implementation ought to be negligible. > > But the catch is: I won't talk to anyone, like Palm or Handspring, about my > idea, because they won't talk to me without my revealing my idea, and they > won't sign a legal agreement promising to keep my idea secret and / or to > negotiate with me if they want to implement my idea. > > So, I'm looking for interest in an idea I won't even hint at here, interest > from someone who has the clout or connections to implement it. What's in it > for you: part of the pie, of course. What's the down-side? You waste five > minutes talking with me. > > BTW, I live in New York City and I am a professional software developer. If > you live close by, it will be easiest to get together. > > David Abraham > davidkernabraham@hotmail.com
Re: an IDEA for PDA's
Author: Robert Kim
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 20:34
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 20:34
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On Wed, 19 Jun 2002, Steven Whatley wrote: > Why is that folks come up with their best ideas while in the shower? > Maybe employers should start putting shower stalls in cubicles and > offices. :) > > Later, > Steven Well, I heard that people come up with their best ideas while sitting on the porcelain throne, not in the shower.
Re: an IDEA for PDA's
Author: Xcenoxyzs [Frank R.]
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 01:28
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 01:28
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The idea is not to take a shower, imho, but to walk... it activates some kind of energetic circulation in the body that helps us think... or so I read anyway... but I find it to be rather true... "Steven Whatley" <swhatley@blkbox.com> wrote in message news:vR1Q8.25014$8i1.1568770@bin2.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com... > In alt.comp.sys.palmtops.pilot Mark S <nospam@here.com> wrote: > > "Anyone who's ever taken a shower has had a great idea." - Nolan Bushnell > > Why is that folks come up with their best ideas while in the shower? > Maybe employers should start putting shower stalls in cubicles and > offices. :) > > Later, > Steven
Re: an IDEA for PDA's
Author: Louise Bremner
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 03:41
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 03:41
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Xcenoxyzs [Frank R.] <NOxcenFUCKING@videotron.caSPAM> wrote:
> The idea is not to take a shower, imho, but to walk... it activates some
> kind of energetic circulation in the body that helps us think...
No, no--the shower is essential. It ensures that you're far away from
writing materials, so you can't write down your brilliant ideas as they
occur to you. In the worst case, you've forgotten them by the time
you've dried yourself.
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Re: an IDEA for PDA's
Author: John Musielewicz
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 06:56
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 06:56
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On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 12:41:50 +0900, dame_zumari@yahoo.com (Louise Bremner) wrote: >Xcenoxyzs [Frank R.] <NOxcenFUCKING@videotron.caSPAM> wrote: > >> The idea is not to take a shower, imho, but to walk... it activates some >> kind of energetic circulation in the body that helps us think... > >No, no--the shower is essential. It ensures that you're far away from >writing materials, so you can't write down your brilliant ideas as they >occur to you. In the worst case, you've forgotten them by the time >you've dried yourself. > Ah..but there is a real train of thought as you are on the porcelain throne..grunt..strain..Wait an idea...ahhh
Re: an IDEA for PDA's
Author: Falcon611
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 07:04
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 07:04
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 12:41:50 +0900, dame_zumari@yahoo.com (Louise Bremner) wrote: >Xcenoxyzs [Frank R.] <NOxcenFUCKING@videotron.caSPAM> wrote: > >> The idea is not to take a shower, imho, but to walk... it activates some >> kind of energetic circulation in the body that helps us think... > >No, no--the shower is essential. It ensures that you're far away from >writing materials, so you can't write down your brilliant ideas as they >occur to you. In the worst case, you've forgotten them by the time >you've dried yourself. Hmm I find both idea-llistic (lol)- When yr in the shower you cant reach for your Palm to write down your idea, and when you're jogging/walking, your PDA is probably a few k's away, and by the time you get home you're too tired to remember it. I constantly find myself looking at something and saying, "hey, I thought of that idea ages ago"- anyone else? :) Cheers, /Falcon611 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPRDxxUXwa+b6HAYREQLByQCfZok4LRqqaoEiopfPQVu5/01MLBIAoIpd vdRpPyb0jTySfBlLIDEE4qS2 =4zYL -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Re: an IDEA for PDA's
Author: Tom Accuosti
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 17:49
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 17:49
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"Mark Wilden" <mark@mwilden.com> wrote in message news:uh1ccu3gvusv72@news.supernews.com... | "Steven Whatley" <swhatley@blkbox.com> wrote in message | news:vR1Q8.25014$8i1.1568770@bin2.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com... | | > Why is that folks come up with their best ideas while in the shower? | > Maybe employers should start putting shower stalls in cubicles and | > offices. :) | | Or maybe more of us should telecommute (like me, who sometimes takes a | shower just to solve a problem). Hey, maybe his idea is a PDA on a gyroscopic base that one can ride to work - a Segway PDA?
Re: an IDEA for PDA's
Author: Larisa
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 18:33
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 18:33
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Falcon611 <no@spam.plz> wrote in message news:<icv2hu4cb2tlb0e6pd7n7tsrttspu0et74@4ax.com>... > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 12:41:50 +0900, dame_zumari@yahoo.com (Louise Bremner) > wrote: > > >Xcenoxyzs [Frank R.] <NOxcenFUCKING@videotron.caSPAM> wrote: > > > >> The idea is not to take a shower, imho, but to walk... it activates some > >> kind of energetic circulation in the body that helps us think... > > > >No, no--the shower is essential. It ensures that you're far away from > >writing materials, so you can't write down your brilliant ideas as they > >occur to you. In the worst case, you've forgotten them by the time > >you've dried yourself. > > Hmm I find both idea-llistic (lol)- When yr in the shower you cant reach > for your Palm to write down your idea, and when you're jogging/walking, > your PDA is probably a few k's away, and by the time you get home you're > too tired to remember it. I have my best ideas just when I'm about to fall asleep; or when, for some reason, I wake up in the middle of the night. That ensures that I'm too sleepy to do anything to record the idea, and that if I do reach for the Palm and write it down, I worry about not getting enough sleep and not being able to function in the morning. Bicycling also seems to work for me; and again, if I'm riding along at 15mph, I wouldn't want to stop in traffic and pull out the Palm to record the idea. Ah well. LM
Re: an IDEA for PDA's
Author: Falcon611
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 08:50
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 08:50
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On 23 Jun 2002 11:33:41 -0700, purple_bovine@yahoo.com (Larisa) wrote: >I have my best ideas just when I'm about to fall asleep; or when, for >some reason, I wake up in the middle of the night. That ensures that >I'm too sleepy to do anything to record the idea, and that if I do >reach for the Palm and write it down, I worry about not getting enough >sleep and not being able to function in the morning. > >Bicycling also seems to work for me; and again, if I'm riding along at >15mph, I wouldn't want to stop in traffic and pull out the Palm to >record the idea. Ah well. At least theres demand for a shock resistant, waterproof, quick access PDA :)
Re: an IDEA for PDA's
Author: Bill Michaelson
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 10:58
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 10:58
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Voice recorder. > I have my best ideas just when I'm about to fall asleep; or when, for > some reason, I wake up in the middle of the night. That ensures that > I'm too sleepy to do anything to record the idea, and that if I do > reach for the Palm and write it down, I worry about not getting enough > sleep and not being able to function in the morning. > > Bicycling also seems to work for me; and again, if I'm riding along at > 15mph, I wouldn't want to stop in traffic and pull out the Palm to > record the idea. Ah well. > > LM >
Re: an IDEA for PDA's
Author: Richard Sloan
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 04:25
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 04:25
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Once I spent lots of money implementing someone elses great idea and took a bath! R. "Mark S" <nospam@here.com> wrote in message news:aeq4b0$6ij@dispatch.concentric.net... > It looks like you have an "expression" of an idea with specific > implementation on a PDA with hardware and software. > You can patent this... make notes with dates. > You then get to spend a lot of money on lawyers filing and defending your > patent. > > "Anyone who's ever taken a shower has had a great idea." - Nolan Bushnell > > Good luck. > /Mark > > "David Abraham" <d-k-a@rcn.com> wrote in message > news:aep0r1$n0u$1@bob.news.rcn.net... > > Ideas are cheap, ideas are not patentable, only expressions or instances > of > > an idea are protectable under the laws of Intellectual Property. > > > > OK, folks, I have an IDEA, an idea that combines a handheld-type device, > > some extra hardware, and some software. I estimate that the nation-wide > > revenues of such a package of hardware / software would be between $25MM > and > > $1 MMM in three years, and more if it is marketed internationally. The > cost > > of implementation ought to be negligible. > > > > But the catch is: I won't talk to anyone, like Palm or Handspring, about > my > > idea, because they won't talk to me without my revealing my idea, and they > > won't sign a legal agreement promising to keep my idea secret and / or to > > negotiate with me if they want to implement my idea. > > > > So, I'm looking for interest in an idea I won't even hint at here, > interest > > from someone who has the clout or connections to implement it. What's in > it > > for you: part of the pie, of course. What's the down-side? You waste > five > > minutes talking with me. > > > > BTW, I live in New York City and I am a professional software developer. > If > > you live close by, it will be easiest to get together. > > > > David Abraham > > davidkernabraham@hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > >
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