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Article #143Re: Win32/RAMNIT.A Anyone?
From: TBerk
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 07:31
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 07:31
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On Aug 10, 4:55 pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote: > On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 20:44:55 -0400, in > <i3srqb$fk...@news.eternal-september.org>, "FromTheRafters" > > > > <erra...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > >"John Navas" <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote in message > >news:3dp2669is92a9f58ai7nih728pi8164jpf@4ax.com... > >> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:45:46 -0400, in > >> <i3re5e$jk...@news.eternal-september.org>, "FromTheRafters" > >> <erra...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > > >>>"John Navas" <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote in message > >>>news:utd1665r4ab04coghfdir9rsn06cc3f5m8@4ax.com... > >>>> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 20:39:32 -0400, in > >>>> <i3q747$ag...@news.eternal-september.org>, "FromTheRafters" > >>>> <erra...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > > >>>>>"John Navas" <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote in message > >>>>>news:8a5166l8harrijvc3lh42u24s9h0b8r01h@4ax.com... > > >>>>>> I thought "this class of virus" would be specific enough, > >>>>>> but you're right that I should have been clearer, > >>>>>> and I thank you for the clarification. > > >>>>>Just curious, what did you mean by 'this class of virus' and the > >>>>>infection of possibly needed executables? > > >>>> I meant the class of virus that implants its own executable files, > >>>> and protects them from most methods of removal. Sorry for not being > >>>> more clear. > > >>>That's okay. You are correct that self-contained replicator files can > >>>be > >>>deleted outright - there is nothing there that needs to be salvaged, > >>>but > >>>Ramnit.a actually modifies (infects/trojanizes) preexisting program > >>>files (although not with a replicant). > > >> That depends on the actual problem, what the anti-virus system is or > >> is > >> not able to remove and disinfect on its own. According to this > >> report: > >> <http://www.threatexpert.com/report.aspx?md5=074a688443faea25c25899750...> > >> Win32/RAMNIT.A modifies few essential executables. My own experience > >> with Microsoft Security Essentials (cf OP) is that only non-essential > >> files are missed in this case. Do you have experience to the > >> contrary? > > >No, but I think I understand what you are saying now. > > I understood what I was saying in the first post, thank you very much. > > -- uh, John? That would be 'thankyouvurrymuch...'. TBerk I'm just say'n
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