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Article #149Re: Win32/RAMNIT.A Anyone?
From: John Navas
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 21:17
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 21:17
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On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 17:14:36 -0400, in <i3sh5907nh@news6.newsguy.com>, "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote: >From: "John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> > >| On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:45:46 -0400, in >| <i3re5e$jkc$1@news.eternal-september.org>, "FromTheRafters" >| <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > >>>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message >>>news:utd1665r4ab04coghfdir9rsn06cc3f5m8@4ax.com... >>>> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 20:39:32 -0400, in >>>> <i3q747$ago$1@news.eternal-september.org>, "FromTheRafters" >>>> <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > >>>>>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:8a5166l8harrijvc3lh42u24s9h0b8r01h@4ax.com... > >>>>>> I thought "this class of virus" would be specific enough, >>>>>> but you're right that I should have been clearer, >>>>>> and I thank you for the clarification. > >>>>>Just curious, what did you mean by 'this class of virus' and the >>>>>infection of possibly needed executables? > >>>> I meant the class of virus that implants its own executable files, >>>> and protects them from most methods of removal. Sorry for not being >>>> more clear. > >>>That's okay. You are correct that self-contained replicator files can be >>>deleted outright - there is nothing there that needs to be salvaged, but >>>Ramnit.a actually modifies (infects/trojanizes) preexisting program >>>files (although not with a replicant). > >| That depends on the actual problem, what the anti-virus system is or is >| not able to remove and disinfect on its own. According to this report: >| <http://www.threatexpert.com/report.aspx?md5=074a688443faea25c2589975069de044> >| Win32/RAMNIT.A modifies few essential executables. My own experience >| with Microsoft Security Essentials (cf OP) is that only non-essential >| files are missed in this case. Do you have experience to the contrary? > >That ThreatExpert report is insuficient. > >Go back and read Ant's analysis based upon the Ramnit samples I provided him with. In which of the 184 messages in this thread would those specifics be? -- John "Assumption is the mother of all screw ups." [Wethern๏ฟฝs Law of Suspended Judgement]
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