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Article #152Re: Win32/RAMNIT.A Anyone?
From: FromTheRafters
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 00:44
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 00:44
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"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message news:3dp2669is92a9f58ai7nih728pi8164jpf@4ax.com... > On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:45:46 -0400, in > <i3re5e$jkc$1@news.eternal-september.org>, "FromTheRafters" > <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > >>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message >>news:utd1665r4ab04coghfdir9rsn06cc3f5m8@4ax.com... >>> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 20:39:32 -0400, in >>> <i3q747$ago$1@news.eternal-september.org>, "FromTheRafters" >>> <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >>> >>>>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message >>>>news:8a5166l8harrijvc3lh42u24s9h0b8r01h@4ax.com... >>> >>>>> I thought "this class of virus" would be specific enough, >>>>> but you're right that I should have been clearer, >>>>> and I thank you for the clarification. >>>> >>>>Just curious, what did you mean by 'this class of virus' and the >>>>infection of possibly needed executables? >>> >>> I meant the class of virus that implants its own executable files, >>> and protects them from most methods of removal. Sorry for not being >>> more clear. >> >>That's okay. You are correct that self-contained replicator files can >>be >>deleted outright - there is nothing there that needs to be salvaged, >>but >>Ramnit.a actually modifies (infects/trojanizes) preexisting program >>files (although not with a replicant). > > That depends on the actual problem, what the anti-virus system is or > is > not able to remove and disinfect on its own. According to this > report: > <http://www.threatexpert.com/report.aspx?md5=074a688443faea25c2589975069de044> > Win32/RAMNIT.A modifies few essential executables. My own experience > with Microsoft Security Essentials (cf OP) is that only non-essential > files are missed in this case. Do you have experience to the > contrary? No, but I think I understand what you are saying now.
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