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Re: Win32/RAMNIT.A Anyone?

#178
From: John Slade
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 06:16
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On 8/5/2010 2:25 PM, David H. Lipman wrote:
> From: "John Slade"<hhitman86@pacbell.net>
>
> | On 8/4/2010 1:53 PM, David H. Lipman wrote:
>>> From: "John Slade"<hhitman86@pacbell.net>
>
>
>
>>>>> The term "malware" is generic.
>>>>> The term "virus" is quite specific.
>
>
>
>>> |       "Virus" is both a generic term and a specific term. Why do
>>> | you think they call the software used to clean trojans and
>>> | worms, "Anti-Virus" software? I'm sure you don't think that they
>>> | only clean viruses and leave trojans and worms alone. It's all a
>>> | matter of semantics. Just about all of the major anti-malware
>>> | vendors have products that they call Anti-Virus. This is because
>>> | it just stuck. You're a professional and you don't know this?
>
>>> Sorry John - No.
>
> |      Well it's time you learned.
>
> I've been studying malware since I had to erradicate the "Jerusalem.B" from a Novell 2.11
> network.  That was a true file infecting virus.  I have been at this long enough to say
> emphatically, YOU need to learn otherwise do NOT call yourself a professional.
>

          What makes me a professional is knowing what I'm 
doing. Remember this whole thing started out because someone 
wasn't "professional" enough to think of backing up so they 
won't lose data by clearing restore points.

John
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Subject: Re: Win32/RAMNIT.A Anyone?
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