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Article #184Re: Win32/RAMNIT.A Anyone?
From: John Slade
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 18:11
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 18:11
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On 8/6/2010 5:13 AM, RJK wrote:
>
> >>> I know exactly what I'm talking about. So tell me what tools do
> >>> you use to remove worms and trojans from computers? Are any of them
> >>> called "Anti-Virus" software?
> >>
> >> Yes, but that is beside the point.
> >
> > No that's the point entirely. The word "virus" is acceptable to
> > just about everyone except a few anal retentive people who love to go
> > around correcting everyone.
>
> ...and ignorant people will still call themselves professionals I
> suppose.
>
> Talk about anal.
>
>
> Now I've been trying to follow this thread, and I may have got the wrong
> end of the stick somehere but, I would like to point out that I fully
> respect David H Lipmans' persistance in clarifying malware terminology /
> categrisation,
> indeed, I've found it VERY useful on several occasions.
> And for those other malware "professionals" out there, I'd like to point
> out that David H Lipman is held in the highest esteem by many people
> inc. myself, ...and who also consider him to be one of the foremost
> authorities in the field of malware, so much so that when I have an
> interest in a specific variant, and I'm wading through a thread, there's
> only a few I need to read - David H Lipman first - and a few others. I
> particularly avoid reading posts by one or two particular "know-all's"
> because of their condescending and ignorant attitude.
> enough said :-)
> regards, Richard
That's all well and good but this conversation was not
just about malware. It started out when Dave said he was
reluctant to disable system restore because he wanted to keep
the restore points. Well that problem would be solved by a
simple backup. I think he got a bit angry because he overlooked
something simple. So many times people who are programmers or
people who don't regularly work in on site repairs tend to lose
people skills and commons sense skills. I've been doing repairs
for about 25 years and made a good living doing so. I never
needed to advertise because I got more business by word of mouth
than I could handle.
Since this thread started people have tried to change the
subject when they lose an argument. That's how we wound up on
soldering irons and leaking capacitors.
John
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