Re: Win32/RAMNIT.A Anyone?

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From: FromTheRafters
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 00:07

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"RJK" <nosuch@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:JJm6o.931$1v3.218@newsfe20.iad...
> ...same old hair being split again an again :-)
>
> ...when someone dumps a system box in my lap, or pleads down the 
> 'phone, he or she often suspects that "...there's a virus in it."
>
> :-)

Calling self-replicating programs "viruses", coupled with the fact that 
almost all malware in existence at one time were indeed 
self-replicating, led to the popular lexicon's adoption of the term 
"virus" to mean the same as "malware". The idea that a computer could 
catch a cold virus is *too damned sexy* an idea for the populous to let 
go of - they 'prefer' to call any 'bad computer stuff' a virus now.

Be that as it may, three of the groups posted to are technical in nature 
(even have "virus" in their names). Ask a question about whether a virus 
could infect a data store (no, it cannot), you might get a wrong idea 
about where *malware* can be hiding. Viruses are rather unique, and 
despite Aunt Polly's refusal to use the term *malware* - there *are* 
important differences in the terms, and people should be educated as to 
that fact.

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From: "FromTheRafters" <erratic@nomail.afraid.org>
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Subject: Re: Win32/RAMNIT.A Anyone?
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 20:07:12 -0400
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