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Re: Win32/RAMNIT.A Anyone?

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From: Dustin
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2010 07:39
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John Slade <hhitman86@pacbell.net> wrote in
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> On 8/4/2010 9:19 PM, Dustin wrote:
>> John Slade<hhitman86@pacbell.net>  wrote in
>> news:G1j6o.53362$dx7.3611 @newsfe21.iad:
>>
>>>      "Virus" is both a generic term and a specific term. Why do
>>> you think they call the software used to clean trojans and
>>> worms, "Anti-Virus" software? I'm sure you don't think that they
>>> only clean viruses and leave trojans and worms alone. It's all a
>>> matter of semantics. Just about all of the major anti-malware
>>> vendors have products that they call Anti-Virus. This is because
>>> it just stuck. You're a professional and you don't know this?
>>
>> The only people who think virus is a generic term are the ones who
>> don't know any better and wouldn't be considered professional in my
>> book. 
> 
>      The only people who really care are the people who want too 
> nitpick over a commonly accepted term to describe all malware. I 
> could see this person correcting a customer that they're using a 
> the wrong terminology and I can see that customer saying they 
> won't call that person back because they were a nerdy asshole. 
> I've seen it happen.

I'm not trying to nitpick you John. You said you were a professional, I 
thought you might like to use the correct terminology. For something to 
be called a virus, it must replicate on purpose. Trojans don't do that. 
it's not being anal john, it's being technically correct; which is 
important as a professional.

>> It's obvious to me atleast that you are someone who fixes computers
>> and you might even do a good job of it, but you aren't deserving of
>> the title professional. I do respect the knowledge you do have, but
>> at this time, I wouldn't agree with your self assessment.
>>
> 
>      This means absolutely nothing in the real world. Just an 
> opinion. I don't care what you think of me or what I do. I do 
> know this, I will be able to retire soon because of my work. I 
> also did it all on my own, built a great reputation as a nice 
> guy who wouldn't get bent out of shape because someone 
> substitutes "virus" for "malware".

I'm not bent out of shape John, apologies if I came across that way.
 
>     A funny story. I used to work with a guy who was very 
> correcting of people he worked with. He would try to make 

A manager I once had was like that. I stood back and watched him burn 
up 3 brand new mainboards right off the shelf, before he bothered to 
check the voltage levels of the power supply. I only suggested as a 
lowly employee at the time when the first one blew a couple of caps 
right off of it that he might want to check the power supply. As he was 
"manager" and been there longer than me, he dismissed the advice and 
wasted two more boards he didn't need to kill. The power supply was 
putting out just under 38 volts on the 12volt rail. I'm sure you can 
imagine the effects on a new board when he'd try to power them on. :)



-- 
"I like your Christ. I don't like your Christians. They are so unlike 
your Christ."  - author unknown.
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Subject: Re: Win32/RAMNIT.A Anyone?
From: Dustin <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com>
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