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Re: Win32/RAMNIT.A Anyone?

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From: FromTheRafters
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 21:44
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"John Slade" <hhitman86@pacbell.net> wrote in message 
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> On 8/1/2010 7:13 PM, David H. Lipman wrote:
>> From: "FromTheRafters"<erratic @nomail.afraid.org>
>>
>> | "John Slade"<hhitman86@pacbell.net>  wrote in message
>> | news:Xyo5o.41721$OU6.25986@newsfe20.iad...
>>
>> | [...]
>>
>>>>>> I don't know why you would find it funny because a virus writer 
>>>>>> will use
>>>>>> anything to hide a virus. What smarter way is to hide them in 
>>>>>> each and
>>>>>> every folder in "system volume information"?
>>
>>>>      I didn't know Dustin Cook existed until he responded for you. 
>>>> But I've
>>>> been reading some in alt.comp.viruses and I find it 
>>>> well...interesting...
>>>> If he wrote viruses then he more than anyone should know that what 
>>>> I said
>>>> happened is indeed possible.
>>
>> | Because he understands true viruses, he knows that they don't need 
>> to hide
>> | themselves in folders.
>>
>> | I don't think he would have said what he said if you had said 
>> worms, or
>> | malware, instead of viruses.
>>
>> | Some malware sorta infests the "System Volume Information" folder - 
>> what
>> | actually happens is that when the AV requests deletion of a 
>> detected malware
>> | file, the OS makes a copy and stores it there just in case you 
>> didn't
>> | *really* want it deleted.
>>
>>
>> It doesn't really have to do with an anti malware application 
>> deleting a file.  That the
>> Recycle Bin and only the OS Shell (explorer) will place the files in 
>> the Recycle Bin.
>>
>> In this case the OS will take executable binaries and other OS 
>> related files and place
>> copies in the System Restore Cache.  All I have to do is download and 
>> EXE or DLL and it
>> will be in the cache and reference the location of where it was in 
>> the OS.  And it doesn't
>> really infest the "System Volume Information\_restore" folder.  It 
>> lays dormant in there
>> until the user decides to restore a break point.  Then it will take 
>> the executable binary
>> and other OS related files and place them back in the original 
>> location thus reviving them
>> from dormancy.  However malware is not know to "hide" itself in 
>> "System Volume
>> Information" while operating within the OS.
>>
>
>      As far as you know, no malware writer used that method. Nobody 
> knows everything.

Now, you're just being silly. 
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From: "FromTheRafters" <erratic@nomail.afraid.org>
Newsgroups: alt.comp.virus,alt.comp.anti-virus,microsoft.public.security.virus,ba.internet
Subject: Re: Win32/RAMNIT.A Anyone?
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 17:44:06 -0400
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