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Article #266Re: Win32/RAMNIT.A Anyone?
From: FromTheRafters
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 21:44
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 21:44
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"John Slade" <hhitman86@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:TOD5o.33942$o27.7240@newsfe08.iad... > On 8/1/2010 7:13 PM, David H. Lipman wrote: >> From: "FromTheRafters"<erratic @nomail.afraid.org> >> >> | "John Slade"<hhitman86@pacbell.net> wrote in message >> | news:Xyo5o.41721$OU6.25986@newsfe20.iad... >> >> | [...] >> >>>>>> I don't know why you would find it funny because a virus writer >>>>>> will use >>>>>> anything to hide a virus. What smarter way is to hide them in >>>>>> each and >>>>>> every folder in "system volume information"? >> >>>> I didn't know Dustin Cook existed until he responded for you. >>>> But I've >>>> been reading some in alt.comp.viruses and I find it >>>> well...interesting... >>>> If he wrote viruses then he more than anyone should know that what >>>> I said >>>> happened is indeed possible. >> >> | Because he understands true viruses, he knows that they don't need >> to hide >> | themselves in folders. >> >> | I don't think he would have said what he said if you had said >> worms, or >> | malware, instead of viruses. >> >> | Some malware sorta infests the "System Volume Information" folder - >> what >> | actually happens is that when the AV requests deletion of a >> detected malware >> | file, the OS makes a copy and stores it there just in case you >> didn't >> | *really* want it deleted. >> >> >> It doesn't really have to do with an anti malware application >> deleting a file. That the >> Recycle Bin and only the OS Shell (explorer) will place the files in >> the Recycle Bin. >> >> In this case the OS will take executable binaries and other OS >> related files and place >> copies in the System Restore Cache. All I have to do is download and >> EXE or DLL and it >> will be in the cache and reference the location of where it was in >> the OS. And it doesn't >> really infest the "System Volume Information\_restore" folder. It >> lays dormant in there >> until the user decides to restore a break point. Then it will take >> the executable binary >> and other OS related files and place them back in the original >> location thus reviving them >> from dormancy. However malware is not know to "hide" itself in >> "System Volume >> Information" while operating within the OS. >> > > As far as you know, no malware writer used that method. Nobody > knows everything. Now, you're just being silly.
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