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Re: Stoned Virus

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From: Mitch
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 00:00
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In article duck@sophos.com says...
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>> So Stoned copying the original MBR to 0,0,7 should be safe, right?
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>*Should* be.
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>If you believe in "benign viruses", you'll believe that Stoned (or any
>other MBR virus which overwrites one of the sectors in Track 0 Head 0,
>usually unused) is benign. No such thing.
>

>Example: back in the days when Stoned was common, there were *lots* of
>of Olivetti M24s around -- they shipped with a version of Olivetti DOS

>which started the C: drive at Track 0, Head 0, Sector 2. So 0.0.7 was
>very much in use (part of the FAT!) on those machines. 

Olivetti DOS 3.30 was quickly damaged for this reason. However, the
way some virus "experts" in this thread clearly demonstrate their
lack of expertise, is the total ignorance displayed with regard to 
Stone's fatal affect on numerous backup & security software packages
(example: FastBack ) which caused a huge amount of data to be
lost. As I previously stated, the original Stone virus _still_ has 
the ability to cause problems. Even the printing of the
standard ibm character set lined message of the original can pull down the 
latest version of Windows (98 b3.) and (albeit indirectly) cause file damage! 
Is that a modern enough o/s for you guys ? :)
 

>How wrong you can be when you rely on "should be" :-)
>
>No such thing as a "benign virus". So there...

Agreed!! 

Mitch.
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From: mitch@aardvark.apana.org.au (Mitch)
Subject: Re: Stoned Virus
Date: 1998/06/11
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