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<dontspam@dontspam.dontspam> wrote in message
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> Earlier this week, my Kaspersky antivirus software starting
> interfering with my launching Firefox 2.0.0.10.  This was right after
> FF had upgraded to that version, and Kaspersky was preventing the SSL
> part of FF from loading.
>
                                      <snip>
> Hope the above information is helpful.  Even though I can use my
> computer fine, regularly, I'm bothered that "something" might be wrong
> with it, and I'd like to know what else I can do to investigate.


Not sure if this will help with your problem but I've found that KAV is
rather sensitive to other programs. This program that KAV offers, GSI
Parser, will analize your system and tell you if there's any potential
conflicts.

http://gsi.kaspersky.fr

dontspam@dontspam.dontspam wrote:

> Earlier this week, my Kaspersky antivirus software starting
> interfering with my launching Firefox 2.0.0.10.  This was right after
> FF had upgraded to that version, and Kaspersky was preventing the SSL
> part of FF from loading.
> 
.....
> I've used earlier versions of stinger and never had any problems (nor
> have I ever had it detect anything).  What's going on here?
> 
> My computer is running XP SP2.  It's regularly virus scanned by
> Kaspersky every day and has always come up clean (and continues to
> come up clean).  Kaspersky also "blessed" the MsnMusic.exe and
> backup.exe files that were stopping stinger.  I have regularly-updated
> spybot and ad-aware on my computer and run these once a week, and
> other than benign advertising tracking cookies from my browser, they
> never find anything.
> 
You may have a big problem: You can't use your computer in a productive way
anymore, because most of your work time goes by with scanning for ad- and
spyware and viruses.
You can spend your time for a more productive experience: try out linux.

Forgive me if you are working as a beta-tester for this sort of software.

On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 11:01:21 -0600, "tom" <b@b.com> wrote:


>Not sure if this will help with your problem but I've found that KAV is
>rather sensitive to other programs. This program that KAV offers, GSI
>Parser, will analize your system and tell you if there's any potential
>conflicts.
>
>http://gsi.kaspersky.fr
>
>
>

I have gone to this site and am waiting on receiving the activation
email from Kaspersky.

On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 10:03:49 -0500, dontspam@dontspam.dontspam wrote:

>Earlier this week, my Kaspersky antivirus software starting
>interfering with my launching Firefox 2.0.0.10.  This was right after
>FF had upgraded to that version, and Kaspersky was preventing the SSL
>part of FF from loading.
>
>I tried a bunch of things and Kaspersky still flagged FF.  I
>eventually "solved" the FF issue by uninstalling and reinstalling it.
>
>But one of the things I did was to download a new version of Stinger
>(3.8.0, built September 10, 2007) and run that.  I've run it in normal
>mode and more recently in safe mode, and whenever I've run it, I've
>had problems.
>
>The first times I ran it, it would just stop running while scanning
>the file backup.exe from the program files\MozBackup directory
>(MozBackup was freeware I used once, when porting my Firefox setup
>from an old computer to my current on).  I tried uninstalling
>MozBackup and it was reported that "some parts couldn't be
>uninstalled."  I finally wound up starting in DOS mode and manually
>deleting the backup.exe file.
>
>After that, each time I ran Stinger, still in normal mode, my computer
>itself would eventually just lock up and I'd have to manually restart
>it (when Stinger would stop running the first times, every other part
>of my computer ran fine, and even in Stinger, I could click on "About"
>or try to stop the scan).  This happened several times.
>
>Now today, I have some time on my hands, so I restarted in Safe Mode
>and ran Stinger, and this time it flew through the files it was
>scanning until it got to C:\Program
>Files\MsnMusic\4226251\MsnMusic.exe and then it just sat there for 20
>minutes until I restarted my computer.  MsnMusic is a 536k file that
>it should scan in an eyeblink.
>
>I've used earlier versions of stinger and never had any problems (nor
>have I ever had it detect anything).  What's going on here?
>
>My computer is running XP SP2.  It's regularly virus scanned by
>Kaspersky every day and has always come up clean (and continues to
>come up clean).  Kaspersky also "blessed" the MsnMusic.exe and
>backup.exe files that were stopping stinger.  I have regularly-updated
>spybot and ad-aware on my computer and run these once a week, and
>other than benign advertising tracking cookies from my browser, they
>never find anything.
>
>Hope the above information is helpful.  Even though I can use my
>computer fine, regularly, I'm bothered that "something" might be wrong
>with it, and I'd like to know what else I can do to investigate.

A bit more information to go with the above:

1. Yes, my system restore is turned off as I run the stinger program.

2. Even in safe mode, with restore turned off, stinger stops running
when it gets to the MsnMusic.exe file, as described above.  The
"scanning..." message remains, but nothing else happens.  Viewing the
running processes in task manager, there is no indication of a problem
with stinger.

3. I also tried editing the list of what stinger scans - I pulled c:\
off the list and had it just scan the MsnMusic program file folder.
Same problem.  So it's not like it's running out of memory.  It's
getting stuck on that same file each time.

Again, I can't find anything online posted by anyone else having this
kind of a problem with stinger.

Maybe msnmusic.exe has become messed up, the
file sector links are corrupted.
Can you copy and paste the file?
Can you compress it with winzip?

On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:47:57 GMT, "Russg"
<russgilb@MUNGEsbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Maybe msnmusic.exe has become messed up, the
>file sector links are corrupted.
>Can you copy and paste the file?
>Can you compress it with winzip?
>
>

I tried copying and pasting it to my desktop and it seemingly copied -
at least an icon for the program appeared.  But it was really slow
(again, this is a 536k file).  Eventually, I got a Windows error
saying that "an i/o device error" prevented the file from copying.  I
was able to delete from my desktop the copied file.

I used 7-zip (a freeware winzip compatible) and tried to compress the
msnmusic.exe file.  It got to about the 35% mark and just bogged down
(again, for a 536k file, the zip should have been near instantaneous).
Finally, a message saying "the request could not be performed because
of an i/o device error."  This was a message from 7-zip.

When I doubleclicked on the msnmusic.exe file in hopes of launching
it, things just hung for a while, but then my system seemingly
returned to normal.

So what do I do now?  Does XP have some way of detecting the corrupted
file sector links you mention?  Is this a media error or an error in
the file/folder structure of my computer?

snip problem file in XP.
> So what do I do now?  Does XP have some way of detecting the corrupted
> file sector links you mention?  Is this a media error or an error in
> the file/folder structure of my computer?
I suspect it is a bad sector on your hard drive.
A 'thourough' scandisk can take hours, but would
spot and exclude the bad sector out.
It may be a corrupted FAT, or whatever XP uses
to map sectors for files.
The solution is to try to delete the file, which may
be robust enough to overcome the corruption.
If you get a lot of bad sectors, then your hard drive
is about to go.  Some bad sectors are acceptable,
just let scandisk map them out of use.
I think.

dontspam@dontspam.dontspam wrote:
> 
> Earlier this week, my Kaspersky antivirus software starting
> interfering with my launching Firefox 2.0.0.10.  This was right after
> FF had upgraded to that version, and Kaspersky was preventing the SSL
> part of FF from loading.

In the future, dont be a BETA tester for free. I'm still with FF 2.0 and
never a problem. Let other folks beta test for the rest of us. 





-- 
http://www.bootdisk.com/

On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 23:45:33 -0500, "Russg"
<russgilb@MUNGEsbcglobal.net> wrote:

>snip problem file in XP.
>> So what do I do now?  Does XP have some way of detecting the corrupted
>> file sector links you mention?  Is this a media error or an error in
>> the file/folder structure of my computer?
>I suspect it is a bad sector on your hard drive.
>A 'thourough' scandisk can take hours, but would
>spot and exclude the bad sector out.
>It may be a corrupted FAT, or whatever XP uses
>to map sectors for files.
>The solution is to try to delete the file, which may
>be robust enough to overcome the corruption.
>If you get a lot of bad sectors, then your hard drive
>is about to go.  Some bad sectors are acceptable,
>just let scandisk map them out of use.
>I think.
>

You nailed it.  I had XP run chkdsk on starting the computer.  It
found exactly one bad cluster, and that was where the problematic file
was located.  It reported that it moved the file successfully and
repaired the sector.  I then ran stinger and it flew through
everything with no problems.

Thanks.

snip some stuff.
> You nailed it.  I had XP run chkdsk on starting the computer.  It
> found exactly one bad cluster, and that was where the problematic file
> was located.  It reported that it moved the file successfully and
> repaired the sector.  I then ran stinger and it flew through
> everything with no problems.
>
> Thanks.
Welcome.  And thanks for keeping us uptodated
on your progress.

not.my@address.com wrote:

....
> You nailed it.  I had XP run chkdsk on starting the computer.  It
> found exactly one bad cluster, and that was where the problematic file
> was located.  It reported that it moved the file successfully and
> repaired the sector.  I then ran stinger and it flew through
> everything with no problems.
> 
Fine, but consider shopping for a new harddrive ASAP, and imaging the old
one before it's too late.
Once bad sectors show up in windows chkdsk, the drives internal remapping
range may already be full - which indicates EOL for your drive, and also
explains why you noticed a overall slowdown.
Run some S.M.A.R.T monitoring tool or at least the drive manufacturers
testing tool from the homepage.