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Article #1934Re: I don't drive Taxi
From: Gennadiy Krivdyuk
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:03
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:03
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Yes. Will you take a taxi with the driver without diver license? May be just
with presentation skill? I don't think so:). There is of course is
possibility that this driver will make some money... Just may be from "
insurance company "(consulting ??) :)
"Advertiser" <advertiser@VideoClassified.com> wrote in message
news:1a5c2c3702f616f8d2e577e0a66abd96@news.teranews.com...
> Hi there.
>
>
>
> I guess what people are trying to say is that ass-licking skills
presently
> are the most valuable survival skills in the programming field.
Presentation
> skills are required because presentation skills bring money to the
company.
> Programmers don't bring money. Programmers are payroll, expense.
Salespeople
> bring money to the company. So, the better a potential employee sells
> himself/herself at the interview the more attractive he/she for the hiring
> manager. The same continues during employment. Managers who make technical
> decisions due to the lack of their own knowledge are often base their
> decisions upon whoever presents their suggestions better. As a result
nicely
> wrapped and technically meaningless suggestions from the loyal employee
> leave no chance to the suggestions from the programmers who know first
hand
> how things work.
>
>
>
> I am not saying that all managers are evil. It is just in the human nature
> to fall for flattery. From my twelve years career as a professional
> programmer, I've seen only one manager who judged people by their
knowledge
> and quality of work, not by the sweetness of their talk.
>
>
>
> To answer your question about employment at present, I can say that I
don't
> drive Taxi. After two months in the driving school I've got my AZ license
> and drive heavy trucks at night in the GTA.
>
>
>
> Should you be interested in details of how to begin a career of a truck
> driver, please let me know.
>
>
>
> Advertiser.
> advertiser@VideoClassified.com
>
> "Old Enough to Know Better" <SpamSucks@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
> news:7hhJb.77$Dp5.47@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
> >
> > "Gennadiy Krivdyuk" <gkrivdyuk000@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:hqeJb.13419$Vl6.3081643@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > Besides, American company looking for SPECIALISTS, not for degree from
> > > respectful Canadian University with good presentation skills only:)
That
> > are
> > > explanations why in Canada Ph. D (Russian, Chinese or Indian) are taxi
> > > drivers within Canada. Canadian companies usually needs presentation
> > > skills( Canadian graduated) They sometimes misunderstand ( English or
> > > conversation skill) and call this skill communication skills.( This
mean
> > > that you have to explain to the manager from respectful Canadian
> > University
> > > what is going on in programming area). Honestly it is almost
impossible
> > > because the have a degree with the presentation skills in computer
> since.
> > > For the specialist salary range almost the same as for taxi driver.
Visa
> > TN
> > > is very flexible toll to bring this specialist in country.
> > > Especially if they looking for one.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Gennadiy
> >
> > I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say here. Are you saying that
> > American and Canadian companies are looking for degreed people who have
> > excellent spoken and written communication skills in the English
> > language("SPECIALISTS")? Oh God, how I wish that were true!
> > Are you driving a Taxi or programming?
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > "Advertiser" <advertiser@VideoClassified.com> wrote in message
> > > news:08e7730f8b1ec7666ad0f4238fd435d9@news.teranews.com...
> > > > Hi there,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I've been in IT business for quite a while, but could never
understand
> > the
> > > > business logic. Or may be such thing doesn't exist so there is
nothing
> > to
> > > > understand?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So the thing that I don't understand is the reason for a US company
to
> > > hire
> > > > Canadian contractors. If a US company has decided to hire a foreign
> > worker
> > > > then it seems to me to be logical to assume that they would want the
> > best
> > > > value for their money. So my question is why Canada?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is 42hr the lowest rate around? Is it lower than Russian, Chinese or
> > > Indian
> > > > contractor would charge for coding of the same thing? And who, may I
> > ask,
> > > > would likely to respond to such a posting? Waterloo-educated
Canadian
> or
> > > an
> > > > immigrant from Russia, India or China who has a Ph.D. or masters in
> Math
> > > or
> > > > computer science and has been delivering pizza since arrival to
> Canada?
> > > Once
> > > > he gets Canadian citizenship he probably would like to return to an
> > > > IT-related work, rather then continue delivering pizza? So whom this
> US
> > > > company will hire? The same China, India or Russia's born and
educated
> > > > people who hadn't work in their field for the past three-four years
> due
> > to
> > > > immigration to Canada. So what is the gain? What is the purpose of
the
> > > whole
> > > > exercise? Why not to hire directly from China, India or Russia or,
> even
> > > > better set up a branch there to do development? Do Canadians charge
> the
> > > > lowest rate around?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Please let me know what do you think. These questions being
unanswered
> > > don't
> > > > let me sleep at night. Hopefully with your help I'll get some
answers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Advertiser.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Tom Gugger" <tgugger@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:c70b5$3ff42df8$3fa62505$14182@allthenewsgroups.com...
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> > > > >
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> > > > >
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> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> this
> > > > page.
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > >
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> > > > >
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> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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