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Article #1949Re: Is 42hr the lowest rate around?
From: Gennadiy Krivdyuk
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 16:36
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 16:36
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My case is different. I had job in Canada and USA. Besides I am citizen of Canada. It is just my conclusion and feeling about the situation , also answer. "leva" <someone@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:ekgJb.13800$Vl6.3134328@news20.bellglobal.com... > You are right, Gennadiy. And so what? When you became eligible for TN visa, > you'll be 4 years late. You are not the first to realize that your idea > about Canada as developed country was wrong. Big mistake. Leader of the > developing world - maybe. > "Canadian companies usually needs presentation skills" - yep - because they > are resellers of the US or Europian products. Or Chineese. > Canadians are very nice people, your dream about this country is not their > mistake, you had to learn more before immigration. Keep quiet, wait, and - > go! Good luck. > > > "Gennadiy Krivdyuk" <gkrivdyuk000@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:hqeJb.13419$Vl6.3081643@news20.bellglobal.com... > > Hi there, > > > > Besides, American company looking for SPECIALISTS, not for degree from > > respectful Canadian University with good presentation skills only:) That > are > > explanations why in Canada Ph. D (Russian, Chinese or Indian) are taxi > > drivers within Canada. Canadian companies usually needs presentation > > skills( Canadian graduated) They sometimes misunderstand ( English or > > conversation skill) and call this skill communication skills.( This mean > > that you have to explain to the manager from respectful Canadian > University > > what is going on in programming area). Honestly it is almost impossible > > because the have a degree with the presentation skills in computer since. > > For the specialist salary range almost the same as for taxi driver. Visa > TN > > is very flexible toll to bring this specialist in country. > > Especially if they looking for one. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Gennadiy > > > > "Advertiser" <advertiser@VideoClassified.com> wrote in message > > news:08e7730f8b1ec7666ad0f4238fd435d9@news.teranews.com... > > > Hi there, > > > > > > > > > > > > I've been in IT business for quite a while, but could never understand > the > > > business logic. Or may be such thing doesn't exist so there is nothing > to > > > understand? > > > > > > > > > > > > So the thing that I don't understand is the reason for a US company to > > hire > > > Canadian contractors. If a US company has decided to hire a foreign > worker > > > then it seems to me to be logical to assume that they would want the > best > > > value for their money. So my question is why Canada? > > > > > > > > > > > > Is 42hr the lowest rate around? Is it lower than Russian, Chinese or > > Indian > > > contractor would charge for coding of the same thing? And who, may I > ask, > > > would likely to respond to such a posting? Waterloo-educated Canadian or > > an > > > immigrant from Russia, India or China who has a Ph.D. or masters in Math > > or > > > computer science and has been delivering pizza since arrival to Canada? > > Once > > > he gets Canadian citizenship he probably would like to return to an > > > IT-related work, rather then continue delivering pizza? So whom this US > > > company will hire? The same China, India or Russia's born and educated > > > people who hadn't work in their field for the past three-four years due > to > > > immigration to Canada. So what is the gain? What is the purpose of the > > whole > > > exercise? Why not to hire directly from China, India or Russia or, even > > > better set up a branch there to do development? Do Canadians charge the > > > lowest rate around? > > > > > > > > > > > > Please let me know what do you think. These questions being unanswered > > don't > > > let me sleep at night. Hopefully with your help I'll get some answers. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Advertiser. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Tom Gugger" <tgugger@msn.com> wrote in message > > > news:c70b5$3ff42df8$3fa62505$14182@allthenewsgroups.com... > > > > CANADIAN CITIZENS WELCOME > > > > > > > > OMNI GROUP > > > > > > > > 419-380-8853 > > > > > > > > tgugger@buckeye-express.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If interested and qualified, answer questions at the bottom of this > > > page. > > > > > > > > Email answers WITH a resume to tgugger@buckeye-express.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Duration: One year > > > > > > > > Rate: 42hr 1099 1099=You pay your expenses. > > > > > > > > Location: Greater Indianapolis area. > > > > > > > > Start Date: Jan, 2004 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Programmer/Analyst/ --C++ --Windows-Contract-IN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here it is: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 year contract in Indy for C++ DEVELOPER. 6 positions open. We are > in > > a > > > > "favorable" standing with this client. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will be building an Internet Quote System which will allow field > agents > > to > > > > get an on-line quote for small business customers (Insurance Quotes) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 80% of the time will be spent coding Server-side C++ from specs. 100% > > New > > > > Development. The front end is Java (knowledge is helpful, but not > > > required) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All code documentation will be in Clear Case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Email answers WITH a resume to tgugger@buckeye-express.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.. C++ experience--------------------------years > > > > 2.. Windows experience--------------------years > > > > 3.. New Development experience---------years > > > > 4.. Java experience--------------------------years > > > > 5.. Web development exp------------------years > > > > 6.. Quote System exp-----------------------years > > > > 7.. Clear Case exp---------------------------years > > > > 8.. Insurance experience--------------------years > > > > 9.. Citizenship Status------------------------ > > > > 10.. Availability------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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