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Re: KickAss

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From: Brad Allen
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 10:15
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Kshatriya <kshatriya_bharat@yahoo.com> wrote:
>They already tried this back in the late 1920's
>in Russia and in the late 40's all around the
>world.  Unfortunately this project called
>Communism was a dismal failure and killed they
>very people it was supposed to "save".  The first
>thing communists did in any country they took
>over was kill all the evil "capitalists" and
>nationalize everything to "redistribute" the
>wealth.

Communism isn't necessarily the only option.
Actually, I rather don't like it, but for a rather
immature reason:

it reminds me of communicable diseases, and that
scares me.

However, an entrenched history of failure is hard
to ignore.  But, one of the basic tenants of a lot
(not all) of communist thinking is planning; while
I do not trust communism, we must embrace
planning.

Another tenant of communism is redistribution of
wealth.  That one is wrong; it is not the right
approach.  Resource planning doesn't have to mean
stealing; it just means slowing down certain types
of resource use.  You could still use them, but in
a better way.  For instance, if you want to
procreate, you may if you do so less, and more
appropriately, such as after careful consideration
of both resources and gene quality.  Updating some
religions to enhance our family structures to
accept these types of planning will help, too.


BTW, the tone of your message had some terror; I
tried to ignore that and approach the rest of the
message.  While I don't want to be communist, I am
acutely against any aspect of anyone who wishes to
use terror rather than reason.  USA President Bush
and I agree regarding this point, and not because
I like him, but because we're right.  (Other
divergencies between us should show how important
the nondivergent core of this anti-terrorist point
is.)

The mob aspect of communism is part of the terror
you referred to.  It's also one of the defining
meanings of democracy in its ugliest ways.  It
could also be employed by monarchy, dictatorship,
anarchy, and a bunch of other governmental
methods, as well as socialism, capitalism, rough
trade, religion, etc.  Perhaps your perspective of
USA looks via the Middle East and Hollywood too
much; not all of us are religious freaks ready and
willing to bow to the command of your terrorist
bellowing empowered by your wielding of my dollar
via the hands of partially corporal beings.  We
don't have to slaughter whole classes of people in
order to simply refuse to become a part of your
selection process.  Just say no.
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