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Repeat after me, Indians are not racists, they are just beimg
opportunists (3 times)

Indians do this not because they are racists, they do this because
there is tremendous cost savings involved when they hire other
Indians. No social security, FICA, no insurance, half the wages, and
they don't have to report the income because it is paid in cash.

The reason the Indian software (shell companies, body shops, or
umbrella companies) hire Indians only is because, the Indians are
looking for H1b's, they make $5 to $10/hour off the employee, just
because they are getting them an H1b. In turn, the shell company also
provides a cover for all the lies written on their H1b clients
resumes. "There are no jobs in the US for which Indans are not
qualified, thanks to Indian body shops". It's a win-win for the H1-b,
and the body shop. The H1b + Body Shop combination is a very very
effective and deadly technique...

-- blacky


"Jeff Davis" <luzer15@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3rydnZSv2KCKeLvdRVn-gg@comcast.com>...
> "Scott Auge" <scott_auge@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4026E54C.3020900@yahoo.com...
> > I smell some racist overtones there too.
> >
> > I do know that SOME Indians do tend to hire other Indians.  Seen it
> > myself when a new manager comes around.  And I have actually walked out
> > of interviews because it was so awfully obvious I was wasting my time.
> > Knowing what I know of my previous Indian co-workers, they were
> > interested in getting their friends a job.
> >
> > I don't think it is racism as much as it is "a friend of a friend of a
> > friend" can get you a job.  Hey - they have 3,000 people showing up at a
> 
> The Indians are racists.  I've seen them purchase a frachise one week and
> fire the current employees, and then next week bring in all Indians.
> I've seen many franchises staffed with all Indians. This is not a
> coincidence.
> This is discrimination.
> They are not unlike the KKK.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > wedding, you know they are socially networked.  Abu can get a lot of
> > favor "capital" from his social network by getting Ajib a job.  And when
> > Abu needs a job, Ajib and his friends are looking for him too.
> >
> > I am white, and I have been hired by an Indian (Sri Lank'an actually.)
> > So one cannot say that they all are racist.
> >
> > So I have life experience on both sides of the story.
> >
> > Jobs these days are a matter of who-you-know (and the ability to work
> > low wage.)
> >
> > news2020 wrote:
> >
> > > This is turning into cooked up hate messaging.
> > > I do not think any company would fire US workers unless something was
> > > badly wrong. Such as, all that is happening around these days -
> > > sabotage, destroying things, viruses, etc. Subtle ways of bringing
> > > down a company. If something like this happens even once,
> > > the result is obvious. Money is not a real issue in such matters.
> > > They will pay for good work any day. After all it is your own
> > > mom and pop who are making the decisions about your jobs
> > > because they are running the companies. And they know full well
> > > what the people are doing.
> > >
> > >
> > > billgbl wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>supreme4007 wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>You must note that there is not a peep about all the
> > >>>people being shuttled now as well as for years and years
> > >>>by so many many other European and other countries
> > >>>on all kinds of jobs and visas, etc. It is only recently
> > >>>that India even got involved in any offshoring activites.
> > >>>Others have been doing it for years and years. Yet,
> > >>>not a complaint about all these Europeans !
> > >>>
> > >>>This is political  baiting of India and India-ns, especially
> > >>>made for the election year in the US. The climate of
> > >>>anti-India and anti-Indian hatred has been building
> 
> 
> Americans hate racists.
> 
> 
> 
> > >>>with active participation by hateful journalists for a
> > >>>long long period of time. Ever since they saw a lot
> > >>>of India-ns involved in high technology at the same
> > >>>time as American workers were losing jobs due to
> > >>>layoffs and the vicious climate of high technology.
> > >>>
> > >>>High technology cannot be restricted to one category
> > >>>of people or another. Therefore, these prejudiced
> > >>>journalists and any rabble-rousing demagogue leaders
> > >>>(labor leaders, etc.) will eventually end up driving
> > >>>away all high technology. A  return to
> > >>>pre-World:War I USA (like third world)
> > >>>is quite a possibility if this trend continues. That
> > >>>is precisely why the confusion of war prevails now.
> > >>>It helps to mask the underlying turmoil.
> > >>>
> > >>>Your Friend wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>http://in.rediff.com/money/2004/feb/05us1.htm
> > >>>>
> > >>>>L1 visa: Infosys, Wipro deny US charge
> > >>>>
> > >>>>February 05, 2004 20:40 IST
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Infosys and Wipro, the country's two leading software companies, on
> > >>>>Thursday denied the allegation that they have been abusing the United
> > >>>>States' L-1 visa regulations.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>"Infosys fully complies with visa statutes and regulations in letter
> > >>>>and in spirit. Infosys adheres to this regulation and does not
> > >>>>differentiate between H1-B and L-1 pay scales, although not legally
> > >>>>mandated," Infosys CEO and managing director Nandan M Nilekani said in
> > >>>>a statement.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>A Wipro spokeswoman said the question of abusing any type of visa
> > >>>>regulation did not arise and the company complied with the
> > >>>>requirements of the visa laws.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>"We believe that we are in total compliance with the requirements of
> > >>>>visa laws. The question of their abuse does not arise," he told PTI.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>The two companies were responding to the US labour organisations'
> > >>>>allegation that Indian firms, namely Infosys, Wipro, TCS, had been
> > >>>>acting as "bodyshops", sending Indian workers to the US through the
> > >>>>L-1 system and then subcontracting them out to other businesses.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Infosys said L-1 visa regulations stipulated that only employees with
> > >>>>specialised knowledge or holding managerial or executive positions
> > >>>>could file an application.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>"Most of our employees stay in the US for the duration of the project,
> > >>>>which is typically one to two years, and return to the home country,"
> > >>>>Nilekani said.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Infosys continues to work with governments and consulates of the
> > >>>>countries in which it operates in order to ensure that it fully
> > >>>>understands and correctly interprets the immigration regulations, the
> > >>>>statement said.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Michael W Gildea, executive director of the Department of Professional
> > >>>>Employees, AFL-CIO, US's largest labour federation, addressing the
> > >>>>House International Relations
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Committee on Wednesday, accused Indian IT firms such as TCS, Infosys
> > >>>>and Wipro of "abusing" the L-1 visa programme to bring in cheap
> > >>>>manpower to take over American jobs.
> > >>
> > >> See a bigger picture. One of friends works as an editor in a major
> > >>paper. He told me that almost all their computer people are Indians.
> > >>When I asked him what happened to make it so. He told me when they
> > >>replaced a MIS manager with an Indian. Within two years the Indian found
> > >>excuses for removing the American computer people with others from
> > >>India. He made a big fuss about the lack of education and qualifications
> > >>the american programming staff had and how he could only rescue IT
> > >>operations with new replacements. Where from? India. And now nothing
> > >>works as well. He told me that the Indians are even rude when you tell
> > >>them they didn't fix the computer problems. They have the bad habit of
> > >>talking down to non-techies and act like the technical problems are on
> > >>par to finding the Unified Field Theory. He told me there isn't a day
> > >>when something doesn't go wrong with computer operations. And there
> > >>hasn't been a day when the new staff of techies were able to fix a
> > >>problem in less than 4 hours. When I asked him why they don't fire the
> > >>new MIS manager and his jerky staff, he said like this, "can't the big
> > >>boss is Jewish. Guess who brought him in? They eat lunch together and
> > >>discuss the Muslim problem all the time. Did you think the Indians were
> > >>let in this country so quickly by their own resources? Don't be so
> > >>naive."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >