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Article #187Re: By the numbers: Who Wins, Who Loses
From: Larry Bud
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 01:20
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 01:20
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> > Obviously those who pay the majority of the taxes get the majority of > > the benefit. If you pay zero in taxes, a tax cut won't affect you. > > > > The top 1% pay 36.89% of the taxes. The top 50% pay 96.7% of the > > taxes. Half of this country is living off the backs of the other half. > > > > See row 170: > > http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/04in05tr.xls > This is pure fiction. LOL! Talk to the IRS, it's their data, right from their site. > Firstly, there is hardly none that pay NO taxes. http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/1410.html There were 43.4 million tax returns, representing approx 91 million individuals, face a zero or negative federal liability. > Secondly, I'm guessing you are referring to Federal income taxes - but > in reality, that's only a portion (perhaps 1/3) of all taxes. Of course I'm talking federal since that's what the OP is talking about. What's your source to believe that Federal Income tax only makes up of 1/3 of all taxes? > In reality, the sweet spot in the US is between 100-150K salary - they > tend to pay the least percentage of overall taxes. Clearly that statement doesn't jive with the IRS data: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/04in05tr.xls and here http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/1941.html or here (table 8) http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/250.html People making $100k-$200k pay 22.51% of the taxes. People who make <25k get income credit. In effect, they pay ZERO taxes (they "pay" less than zero!). >200K pay half the taxes in the US. But don't let me get in your way of arguing with IRS statistics!!!
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