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Article #196Re: By the numbers: Who Wins, Who Loses
From: Larry Bud
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:47
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:47
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gamer wrote: > Larry Bud wrote: > > >>>Obviously those who pay the majority of the taxes get the majority of > >>>the benefit. If you pay zero in taxes, a tax cut won't affect you. > >>> > >>>The top 1% pay 36.89% of the taxes. The top 50% pay 96.7% of the > >>>taxes. Half of this country is living off the backs of the other half. > >>> > >>>See row 170: > >>>http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/04in05tr.xls > > > >>This is pure fiction. > >> > >> > > > >LOL! Talk to the IRS, it's their data, right from their site. > > I did - the facts are > > Total taxes = 25% GDP > > 8% Federal Income > 6% FICA > 5% State (income, sales & other sources) > 3% local (primarily property) > 2% federal corporate income > 1% other federal (excise, etc) > > > While some pay a higher percentage of their taxes via federal income > tax, others pay a higher percentage via FICA, sales, etc. And? Nobody is arguing otherwise. The OP was claiming that my assertion that The top 1% pay 36.89% of the taxes. The top 50% pay 96.7% of the taxes is "pure fiction" to quote him. In the context of Federal taxes (which was the context), it obviously isn't. If you think it's "pure fiction" take it up with the IRS. It's not my data. > Federal income taxes are only about 1/3 of total tax revenue. To ignore > FICA, sales, property, etc is pure ignorance. The subject WAS federal taxes since the OP was bitching about the Bush tax cuts. I'm not ignoring anything. I'm all for cutting ALL taxes. BTW, "rich" people pay a much higher percentage of their income in sales and property tax because they buy more stuff and have more expensive homes. > Another fact is those >$100k enjoy the highest (by far) percentage of > tax free income (tax free medical expenses - amongst others - being a > significant perk). The IRS data doesn't jive with what you're claiming. I've shown you my source of data, please show me yours. What does making >100k have to do with "tax free medical expenses">
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