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I agree with the original. However, I fully understand that
extra work may be required, but some of these organiza-
tions have grown to simply rely on it.

One of the latter respondents on this thread commented
that he tries to cap his schedule a 50 hours per week.

As an example of $75K annually, these extra permanent
10 hours weekly are costing this individual $7.50 each hour, and 25% of his
life with his family. I'll bet that he hasn't been offered any 25% increases
recently.

Perhaps there are other compensatory offerings here, I
really have no way to tell. But, when this chronic overtime
seems to always be caused by:

    . Reaction to fires which could have been anticipated.
    . The holdback of information by managers.
    . The general reactive environment.
    . Meetings.... Meetings.... Meetings....
    . General interruptions.
    . "Musical" schedules and priorities.
    . And my favorite - insufficient planning and execution.

Then it's time to make some necessary changes. I would
be interested in the details of "salary game illegality" that
is mentioned in this thread.


"no name" <noname@noname.com> wrote in message
news:Z5M28.11819$OS5.1011251@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> Here are a few links that I found when I ran across the same questions
that
> you have.
>
> I think the second one listed defines the laws for you. Found out my
> employer was playing the salary game illegally...
>
>
http://www.nolo.com/lawcenter/ency/index.cfm/catID/4BEF1F62-722F-435E-98AB18
> 960A6EAB0E
>
> http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/latoc.html
>
> http://shopdfw.net/ticknorlawofficecom/LegalLinksI.html
>
> http://www.twc.state.tx.us/customers/jsemp/jsempsub7.html
>
>
>
> "Don" <calldonREMOVE@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:hlvm4u8rtd1h5vqsuuhab7ch6b4mhrq7um@4ax.com...
> > On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 14:58:05 -0600, "Shamish" <shchartudi@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >I'm in the computer field. I think its time the fed. govt stepped in
and
> > >regulated all of this free labor companies are getting. 50, 60,
sometimes
> 70
> > >hour weeks or more. All for the same salary as a 40 hour week. If you
> refuse
> > >to work over, you get fired. If you take off early, your frowned upon.
> There
> > >is something seriously wrong with that picture.
> >
> > Yes, there IS something seriously wrong with that picture.  YOU!!!
> >
> > If you don't like it, you have the freedom to quit.  When you were
> > first hired, you were probably told WHAT was expected of you for that
> > position.
> >
> > >I ask you. Why in the F**C should I give my time to a business for
free?
> >
> > If you don't like it, then quit!  Find a new job.
> >
> > >What have these companies done to deserve
> > >taking a chunk out of my life that doesn't belong to them.
> >
> > Obviously, you KNEW what was expected before you started there.  If
> > not, then it is your fault for staying.
> >
> > >Anything over 40 hours should be paid for. A good service for a good
> wage.
> >
> > READ YOUR CONTRACT WITH YOUR COMPANY!
> >
> > >CHANGE THE EMPLOYMENT LAWS!!!!
> >
> > If you don't like it, QUIT!
> >
> > D*
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "The national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be
> > reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and
> > controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced,
> > if the nation doesn't want to go bankrupt. People must again
> > learn to work, instead of living on public assistance."
> > - - (Marcus Tullius Cicero, 55 B.C.)
> >
> > "I will do ANYTHING to win."
> > - - (Al Gore)
> >
>
>