🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

Article View: alt.consumers
Article #213

Re: By the numbers: Who Wins, Who Loses

#213
From: gamer
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 23:51
56 lines
3556 bytes
ChairMan wrote:

>In news:xBk3h.19695$Fi1.16484@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,
>aemeijers@att.net <aemeijers@att.net>spewed forth:
>  
>
>>"ChairMan" <why4@fu.com> wrote in message
>>news:454d8378$0$2912$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>    
>>
>>>In news:1162216979.504131.200330@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com,
>>>rick++ <rick303@hotmail.com>spewed forth:
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>Has it gone up?  I thought it was 15%.
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>Its 15.3%.
>>>>At the top end SS taxes increase $428 in 2007.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I dont believe there is a self-employeed handiman who
>>>>pays self-employment taxes.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>I'm not aware of any way of getting around self employment tax.
>>>Care to enlighten me?
>>>      
>>>
>>Never hired a independent home-repair guy, huh? Many, if not most,
>>offer a discount for being paid in cash. Think about it. No check, no
>>paper trail, nothing to declare. The trick is to declare just enough
>>to not set off the alarms in the IRS computer. IOW, make sure your
>>tax liability is within some certain per centage of previous year.
>>
>>And yes, there are people living totally 'off the books', doing cash
>>business only. Some have a day job and just do the moonlighting off
>>the books. (common with specialized trades like electricians.)
>>
>>aem sends....
>>    
>>
>
>he may not pay income tax, but if he shows any income, he pays self 
>employment.
>I believe the IRS will only allow you to show no profit for 3 years before 
>it starts getting picky. 
>
>
>  
>
That's only if you show losses for three years.    It says nothing about 
anyone not filing.

While I doubt many are living "totally" off the books, I suspect more 
than a few are trimming their reported income.
Technical Details
Message-ID: <rOu3h.65106$Jt3.34809@newsfe16.lga>
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!news.glorb.com!hwmnpeer01.lga!news.highwinds-media.com!hw-filter.lga!newsfe16.lga.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
References: <bearclaw-59CB83.15303325102006@news.supernews.com> <1161868269.094102.287110@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <0O90h.52000$cb6.8344@newsfe16.lga> <4542C31F.4010003@gmail.com> <67h5k2l6e6n25ifn35st3jmenbcopl9b2f@4ax.com> <1162216979.504131.200330@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <454d8378$0$2912$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com> <xBk3h.19695$Fi1.16484@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <454e10f4$0$31524$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com>

Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Thread: 10f73f,fa63633239d3a27c
X-Google-Thread: 11474a,fa63633239d3a27c
X-Google-Thread: 106595,fa63633239d3a27c
X-Google-Thread: 107518,fa63633239d3a27c
X-Google-Thread: f6c48,fa63633239d3a27c
X-Google-Attributes: gid10f73f,gid11474a,gid106595,gid107518,gidf6c48,public
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!news.glorb.com!hwmnpeer01.lga!news.highwinds-media.com!hw-filter.lga!newsfe16.lga.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
From: gamer <edc4h@cox.net>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax)
X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: alt.consumers,alt.consumers.experiences,ba.consumers,misc.consumers,misc.consumers.frugal-living
Subject: Re: By the numbers: Who Wins, Who Loses
References: <bearclaw-59CB83.15303325102006@news.supernews.com>   <1161868269.094102.287110@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   <0O90h.52000$cb6.8344@newsfe16.lga>   <4542C31F.4010003@gmail.com>   <67h5k2l6e6n25ifn35st3jmenbcopl9b2f@4ax.com> <1162216979.504131.200330@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <454d8378$0$2912$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com> <xBk3h.19695$Fi1.16484@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <454e10f4$0$31524$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com>
In-Reply-To: <454e10f4$0$31524$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 56
Message-ID: <rOu3h.65106$Jt3.34809@newsfe16.lga>
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:51:55 -0500
NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.229.65.161
X-Complaints-To: admin@cox.net
X-Trace: newsfe16.lga 1162770711 68.229.65.161 (Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:51:51 MST)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:51:51 MST
Organization: Cox