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Re: How to waterboard

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From: bearclaw
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 06:00
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In article <sNKdnTAktNpE9ZLYnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
 Anthony Matonak <anthonym40@nothing.like.comcast.net> wrote:

> John wrote:
> > <bearclaw@cruller.invalid> wrote:
> > 
> >>Useful technique for forcing others to tell you what they think you 
> >>want to hear:
> ...<snip link to waterboarding torture technique>...
> > 
> > Well, we can thank Allah that the brutal Islamic savages don't 
> > resort to such inhuman tactics.  They just deliberately target 
> > women and children in mosques and schools and marketplaces and blow 
> > them up with car bombs.  
> ...<Snip rant about terrorists>...
> 
> I guess the moral of the story is that if you want to win a war on 
> terror then you gotta break some laws. Of course, you can't actually 
> 'win' such a war because there is always going to be another 
> terrorist, even if you have to train them yourself.
> 
> Anyone else have more frugal torture techniques? 

Sure, a pair of pliers and some fingernails. Oh, wait... the military 
spends $700 on a pair of pliers, so maybe that's not so frugal. Besides, 
only pussies care about their fingernails being pulled out. America 
needs something more effective to combat those Islamic fascists... how 
about sewing needles in the eyes? Sewing needles are cheap and 
interrogators could make a game of it, like darts.

> I hear that stun guns are popular method of "questioning" people here 
> in the United States. It's not considered torture unless they die on 
> you, maybe not even then.
> 
> Anthony

And if they die before giving you the info you want, or before you can 
torture them into admitting their guilt, it can't be "murder", because 
how can you murder anyone who is suspected of maybe being a possible 
potential terrorist sometime in the future? Torturers don't hurt people 
for no reason! Do they?

Now, it is possible that we might torture someone who our profile says 
could possibly turn into a terrorist at some point in the future. But 
that isn't wrong, it is precautionary, pre-emptive, you know? Like the 
Iraq war, it's all about protecting America.

It's all about keeping YOU and ME safe.

I guess like rape victims, torture victims were asking for it.

That's the kind of military it will take to win the "War On Terror". A 
brutal one. The kind of military that represents its civilian leaders 
well. The same rulers who represent us, the citizens, and what we stand 
for.
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